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The interviewee is Mr. Ernesto Moeller-Arnold, fifty-one years old, nacido en...[chuckle, correction] born in Chile. I am beginning to mix the languages. 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I was administering the estates which belonged to people who simultaneously owned estates in Polish territory, Czechoslovak territory, and in German territory. And in consequence it was very difficult to find a person to administer them who would have the confidence of all, in all these countries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=85.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=127.0,128.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e And I was such a person, as a Chilean, as a neutral person from a faraway country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=128.0,135.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, Sr. Moeller-Arnold, tell me, how did you get to Europe in the first place? 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I spent a considerable time in Chile, but during the world crisis in ’28 [onset of the depression] which happened in those years, I did not have enough money to buy a good [farm-] estate, and since I was offered a good position in Upper Silesia, where I know some local people [whom I met] during my studies in Vienna, I accepted it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=164.0,202.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well...well now, who were the proprietors of that estate in Upper Silesia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=202.0,211.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e There were various [ones]. 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And so? You administered these estates. From what year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=250.0,258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e From the year ’29...’29, ’30, ’31, ’32.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=258.0,268.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Good. And until what time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=268.0,271.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e To the last moment. Until January ’45 when these estates were occupied by...by the Russian army.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=271.0,282.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha. 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And what happened to you during the war?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=293.0,298.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e During the war not much happened to me. I had plenty of difficulties with the German authorities, above all with the military authorities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=298.0,312.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=312.0,313.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e The difficulties on account of the war were very great, because it came to a great need for food for the people. 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Part of them lived in barracks and in lagers [? sounds like lavas], and part of them lived...lived privately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=399.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . were billeted in private homes? Now tell me, sir, what kind of people did you have...did they have to work in the mines? Of what nationality, of what religion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=413.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, they had people of nearly all nationalities. They had English prisoners. They had people of all countries, but mostly there were Ukranians which they had brought from Russia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=429.0,446.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Ukranian people. Women, too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=446.0,451.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Women, no. I have not seen women at that time in the mines...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=451.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=456.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=456.0,458.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and indirectly you had the responsibility for their feeding. And who worked in the fields of your estate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=458.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e In the fields worked...the remainder, mostly the workers who worked before. They also worked in the time of war, because the major part of [field] workers in Upper Silesia are the women. The men are [working] in the mines, and the women work on the estates. So it was for a long time before the war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=467.0,492.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And that was a tradition. Good. And then when the Russian army arrived, then what happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=492.0,502.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. When the Russian army arrived, all of us who lived there were evacuated by the Germans. We were ordered to Thruingia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=502.0,514.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And where did you live in Thuringia? In...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=514.0,520.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e I was located with my family in Thuringia. I was thrown there in a village into very bad quarters, but since I intended to negotiate with the Russians about continuing my work also with them, I returned to Silensia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=520.0,537.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And what happened then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=537.0,541.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e I found all the estates more or less devastated and destroyed. Moreover, all the machinery was taken away, all the horses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=541.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=554.0,555.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e And the estates proper were confiscated by the Polish authorities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=555.0,561.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha. They were confiscated in order to distribute them among the people as homesteads?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=561.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. They said that they wanted to distribute them, but I wanted somehow to negotiate the continuation of my work and met with very pleasant cooperation of the part of the Poles. I cannot complain about them. But since there were no means [facilities] whatsoever to work with, it was not possible to do anything. And to sit there only as a chief without doing any real work, I did not want to continue. To do that was just a farce.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=568.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where is your family now, don Ernesto?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=604.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e My family, too, is here in the camp with me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=606.0,610.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e An UNRRA camp here. Well. Now tell me, how...when did you leave those estates, [and] the Russians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=610.0,618.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e The Russians told me frankly and clearly that I as a foreigner of an American [Chilean] nationality have nothing to do there but to return to my native country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=618.0,637.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=637.0,637.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e And...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=637.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [Words not clear.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=638.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e They attempted at first to ship me home via Odessa, like so many other foreigners, French and Belgians, with whom I was together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=639.0,649.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. How come you say you were together? Were you placed in a lager?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=649.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No. I just lived ther. The Belgians and the French were...they had been locked up there in camps, but I for the short time was not in a camp. They endeavored to persuade me to go there to a camp. 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Your family was already in Thuringia, so that you were alone and had not much difficulty in marching through?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=691.0,697.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=697.0,698.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now then, how did you get out of there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=698.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e I left with some Belgian prisoners.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=701.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=706.0,706.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e We marched together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=706.0,709.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Illegally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=709.0,710.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Illegally, but we had no great difficulty. Even the Russians helped me...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=710.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=716.0,716.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . from time to time, and I marched with them [the Belgians] as far as Thuringia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=716.0,722.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha. Now how long did you march in this manner through Polish or Russian territory?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=722.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e I do not remember well. It took at least, from Upper Silesia as far...as far...as far...where should I say?...as far as Wurzen in Saxony...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=732.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=746.0,747.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . it took me about three weeks, more or less.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=747.0,749.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha. Oh...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=749.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e And at times by bus, at times on foot, at times...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=750.0,755.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e By...by...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=755.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . by train, in freight cars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=757.0,760.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have any money?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=760.0,763.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No. The money was taken away from me en route by soldiers who were pillaging.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=763.0,771.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How? Did they search you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=771.0,776.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. 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From the Russian camp. Well. And the UNRRA brought you here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=826.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e And the UNRRA sent me here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=832.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And Thuringia? 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By black is meant the illegal route.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=874.0,879.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=879.0,880.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well. 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Did you get married here in Europe?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=896.0,899.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. I married in Europe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=899.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh. Well. Tell me, you are going not to Chile? 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It seems that Chile was in the war on the side of the Allies, no?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1004.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but it declared war the twelfth of April, ’45 [this appears at least approximately correct].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1010.0,1019.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh. That late? [Both laugh heartily.] Consequently before that they could get your power of attorney and take your money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1019.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No. From 1943 the diplomatic relations were...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1030.0,1036.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Interrupted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1036.0,1037.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . were interrupted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1037.0,1039.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now how can you say that they got hold of your money?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1039.0,1041.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e But...Of my money? That they got hold of still before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1041.0,1048.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1048.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1049.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, does the UNRRA supply passage for people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1049.0,1057.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No. I don’t think that the UNRRA will supply the passage for us. We figure that our government will help us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1057.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, have you heard already anything from your government?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1065.0,1068.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No. I know very little, because up to now it was very difficult to establish communication with the government.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1068.0,1074.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Don’t you have a Chilean consulate in Germany?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1074.0,1077.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e There is no Chilean consulate in Germany yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1077.0,1079.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now then, the nearest consulate is where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1079.0,1081.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e The nearest consulate...consulates are in Zurich and in Paris.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1081.0,1088.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e In Paris. And what? Do they have a kind of representative who came to see you here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1088.0,1093.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No, up to this time—nobody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1093.0,1094.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And how many Chileans are there in this camp?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1094.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e In this camp there are seventy-six Chileans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1097.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [Suprised] Seventy-six Chileans?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1101.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1103.0,1103.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That is rather a large number.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1103.0,1108.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, because there are assembled here almost all [Chileans] from the American Zone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1108.0,1112.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now tell me something else. Since you were a person relatively free in Germany during the war, how do you appraise the whole situation? You knew Germans. 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I know the situation as it was understood in Upper Silesia, because I was in Upper Silesia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1145.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1156.0,1157.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e In Upper Silesia...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1157.0,1158.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Upper Silesia is somewhat Polish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1158.0,1160.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, Upper Silesia is something per se.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1160.0,1165.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, well. 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Near to Auschwitz was Birkenau. Well. 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I saw that the people worked in...with...[were] nourished very badly, and...that...what...most of all it could be observed...and they were [ditch] diggers, that they were treated rather badly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1492.0,1516.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Diggers? Were they physically mistreated?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1516.0,1520.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. This too could be observed. One saw it happen from time to time, not often, but from time to time one observed that they were mistreated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1520.0,1530.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well. 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You were near Katowice, Sosnowiec?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1539.0,1543.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Let us say between Katowice and Gleiwitz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1543.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Near [?] Katowice and Gleiwitz. There is where you were approximately. Well. 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Of those that we have here, most of them...there are but a few young ones among them, boys and mostly girls that we have here, only a few young ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1678.0,1691.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1691.0,1692.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e We have also here a few who first were in the army, but managed to get out of it, and had found employment in the country in general.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1692.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm. Well, they...there are some among them who are half German, half Chilean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1708.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes, surely. They [some of them] are first of all, at least of German descent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1719.0,1726.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Were there many [such] in Chile?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1726.0,1727.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e No. Oh, there are...are quite a few. 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Even...up to now, up to the war these people had in Chile a very good name, and they never interfered in Chilean politics, or disturbed the politics. Neither during the war did I hear something of that sort, and for that reason there were no great discords [?] among the people like, for example, existed in the Central Americas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1757.0,1785.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Now tell me, you say you left Chile in what year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1785.0,1790.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e ’28.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1790.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e ’28. 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But at that time you were in whose hands? Of the Czechs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1826.0,1831.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Part belonged to the Czechs, part belonged to the Poles, and part to the Germans. 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Well, how many did they expel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2057.0,2061.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e They expelled more or less...Silesia was inhabited more or less by seven million people. All were expelled. 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Now who do they blame, Hitler or the...or the Poles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2134.0,2142.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Their sentiments in their hearts [?] are...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2142.0,2147.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . for the Russians...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2147.0,2148.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . for the Russians and for the Poles are not very friendly, because they were treated quite badly by them. It is clear the one who treats [people] badly much pay for it with bad sentiments [against him].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2148.0,2161.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, surely. But on the other hand they could think, could understand, that if Hitler had not started all that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2161.0,2171.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e That is clear. That is said by people who think, but the majority of the people do not think, but they suffer only at the moment [of misfortune] and see only the one who makes them suffer. And that is the thing that causes great harm. One may beat the other and say you are guilty because you have beaten me. But the one who is beaten sees only the one who is right in front of him [who does the beating]. 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What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2207.0,2224.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. The lesson that must be learned is simply that one day the hostilities [animosities] must be ended. and one has to start with ending them, because if we are to continue with the payment of accounts [retaliations] that would last until the Last Judgment [Judgment Day].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2224.0,2250.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, don Ernesto. Thank you so much. I wanted an informative report from a person who lived in Germany during all the time and could observe the events somewhat like a foreigner [outsider]. 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Thank you very much Mr. Moeller.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2276.0,2322.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/63136/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eArnold:\u003c/strong\u003e [In Spanish] Don’t mention it. 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Entonces se recorda mejor. Haría Ud. el favor de decirnos otra vez cómo se nombra Ud., cómo es su nombre, cuántos años tiene, dónde nació.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=49.547,60.594"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Yo...mi nombre es Ernesto Moeller-Arnold y soy nacido en Santiago de Chile, en el año mil novecientos...1894.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=60.594,75.39"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. Y dígame...entonces ¿dónde estuvo Ud. Señor Arnold cuando comenzó la guerra?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=75.39,85.53"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Al comenzar la guerra, yo tenía un puesto como gerente de haciendas en...Alta Silesia, estaba administrando haciendas que pertenecían a gente que tenía a la vez sus haciendas en territorio polaco, en territorio checoslovaco y territorio alemán. Y, por consecuencia de eso, era muy difícil encontrar personas para administrarlas que tenían la confianza de todo, de todas partes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=85.53,127.917"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=127.917,128.636"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Una persona tal fui yo como chileno, como persona neutral, de un país muy lejano.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=128.636,135.701"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Pues señor Arnold, dígame ¿cómo Ud. llegó a Europa en primer lugar? ¿Cuándo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=135.701,143.184"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Yo la primera vez que llegué a Europa, yo llegué a Viena a estudiar...en la famosa...Hochschule der Bodenkultur. Ya, como me había decidido de aprender la agronomía.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=143.184,159.433"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. Y entonces, ¿se quedó Ud. en Europa desde entonces?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=159.433,164.438"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, yo volví a Chile y estuve un buen tiempo en Chile pero...durante la crisis mundial del ’28 que estalló en esos años, yo...no podía, no tenía los...el dinero bastante para comprarme una buena hacienda. Y como se me ofreció este...un puesto bueno en la Alta Silesia, dónde había conocido yo a gente de allá durante mi estudio en Viena, yo lo acepté.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=164.438,202.778"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bueno. Bueno, entonces, ¿quiénes eran dueños de esta hacienda en Alta Silesia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=202.778,211.965"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Eran varios. Eran entre otros, la...la compañía minera (ininteligible) en Gleiwitz, la compañía minera Godula en Katowice, la compañía minera Henkel Limited en Londres, y...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=211.965,233.589"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Entonces ¿cómo...fueron...fueron haciendas agrícolas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=233.589,238.667"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Eran haciendas que pertenecían a esas compañías y que esas compañías tenían para alimentar a sus trabajadores, que tenían...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=238.667,249.166"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Qué tenían en sus minas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=249.166,250.447"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=250.447,250.932"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¡Oh! 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Bueno, dígame, de modo que para trabajar en su hacienda, las haciendas a su cargo, le trajeron...es...obreros extranjeros.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=359.569,370.709"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, no. 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Pues, dígame señor, entonces...¿qué clase de gente tuvo Ud.... tuvieron ellos para trabajar en las minas? ¿De qué nacionalidad? ¿De qué religión?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=413.624,429.888"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Tenían gente de casi toda nacionalidad. Tenían prisioneros ingleses, tenían gente de todos los países, pero la mayor parte eran ucranianos que trajeron de la Rusia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=429.888,446.512"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Gente ucraniana, ¿mujeres también?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=446.512,451.246"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Mujeres, no. En las minas no he visto mujeres en ese tiempo...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=451.246,456.198"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=456.198,456.917"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . allá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=456.917,458.074"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bueno, y...indirectamente Ud. tuvo la responsabilidad de la alimentación. Bueno, ¿y quién trabajó en los campos en sus haciendas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=458.074,467.401"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: En los campos trabajaron...quedaron la mayor parte de los trabajadores que habían trabajado antes. 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Bueno, y entonces cuando...llegó el ejército ruso, entonces ¿qué pasó?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=492.727,502.914"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí. Cuando llegó el ejército ruso fuimos primeramente evacuados de allá todos los que habitábamos ahí por los alemanes. 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No puedo quejarme de ellos, pero como no había ningún medio para trabajar, era imposible hacer algo y solamente sentarse como jefe ahí sin...sin verdadero trabajo. Yo no quería seguir, era una farsa lo que hacía.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=568.113,604.314"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Dónde está su familia ahora Don Ernesto?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=604.314,606.689"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Mi familia está también en el campamento aquí conmigo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=606.689,610.548"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿En el campamento de UNRRA, aquí? Bueno. Ahora dígame, ¿entonces cómo...cuando se separó Ud. de esas haciendas y de los rusos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=610.548,618.923"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, los rusos me dijeron francamente y netamente que yo como extranjero, de nacionalidad americana, para los rusos no tenía que ver nada más allá, sino que tenía que volver a mi país natal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=618.923,637.062"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bueno.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=637.062,637.812"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Y...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=637.812,638.796"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [Ininteligible].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=638.796,639.921"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Trataron de despacharme primero vía Odessa, como a muchos otros extranjeros franceses y belgas, con qué estaba junto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=639.921,649.888"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. ¿Cómo dice que estaba junto? ¿Qué le pusieron en un lager?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=649.888,654.854"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, no, habitaba. Y a los belgas y franceses estaban...los habían encerrado en campamentos, allá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=654.854,664.15"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Y a Ud....","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=664.15,664.759"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Pero yo al principio no estuve en...en campamento. 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Bueno, su familia estuvo en Turingia, de modo que estuvo Ud. solo y no tuvo mucha dificultad de marchar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=691.897,697.634"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=697.634,698.118"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Entonces cómo se salió Ud. de allá?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=698.118,701.274"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Yo salí con nuevos prisioneros belgas que marchamos juntos...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=701.274,709.09"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Ilegalmente?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=709.09,710.214"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Ilegalmente. No tuvimos muchas dificultades por parte de los rusos hasta me ayudaron...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=710.214,716.276"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=716.276,716.589"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . de vez en cuando, y me marché con ellos hasta la Turingia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=716.589,722.433"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá. 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Del campamento ruso, bueno. ¿Y la UNRRA lo trajo para acá?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=826.348,832.223"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: La UNRRA me mandó para acá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=832.223,833.785"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Y Turingia es en la región rusa?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=833.785,836.707"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Turingia es región rusa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=836.707,839.3"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=839.3,839.987"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Al principio era región americana pero desde principios de julio de 1945 es región rusa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=839.987,847.565"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Entonces lo mandaron para acá. 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De modo...(risas)...de modo que...antes ellos podían tener...tomar su dinero.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1019.525,1030.337"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, desde ’43, había las relaciones diplomáticas...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1030.337,1036.524"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: 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De modo que Ud. estuvo una persona relativamente libre en Alemania durante la guerra. ¿Cómo Ud. aprecia toda la situación? 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Bueno, estuvo allá...un grupo que se consideraba Reichsdeutsch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1210.95,1216.965"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: ¡Sí! Pero no había muchos. La gente que venía allá sobre todo como digamos...como ingenieros de minas, venía de Westphalia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1216.965,1231.745"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1231.745,1233.042"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Y era gente católica que estaba también en una cierta oposición, como Alta Silesia es un país muy buen católico...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1233.042,1244.854"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Um. 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Pues, dígame señor, ¿Ud. sabe la situación en que se encontró el pueblo judío? Pues usted como una persona de lado, como de observador. ¿Qué sabe Ud. de está situación y cómo la aprecia Ud.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1266.17,1285.105"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí. La...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1285.105,1286.12"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Francamente.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1286.12,1287.011"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: La situación del pueblo judío fue terrible. No teníamos lejos de allá el campamento de...el campamento de Auschwitz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1287.011,1296.135"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1296.135,1296.947"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Nunca se sabía algo de lo que se pasaba allá, verdaderamente estaba muy bien isolado.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1296.947,1303.509"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1303.509,1304.322"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Pero se sabía eso, que...la gente fue tratada muy mal y sufrieron bastante los pobrecitos que...que fueron transportados por allá y que nosotros vimos que fueron transportados. No vimos mucho porque esos transportes siempre se pasaban o por la noche o por caminos que uno no podía observar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1304.322,1331.269"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1331.269,1332.238"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Corrían solamente bolas sobre ellos y uno no sabía lo que era verdad y lo que era exagerado, pero sabíamos bastante que sufrían.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1332.238,1342.8"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bueno, allá próximo de Auschwitz estuvo Birkenau, ¿no?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1342.8,1348.55"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, Birkenau no está lejos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1348.55,1350.597"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bueno, dicen que en Birkenau se encontraban los crematorios y que...se pusieron allá a la gente...en las cámaras de gas y todo. ¿Se sabían en...la gente allá cercana, se sabía que se hacen esas cosas en Birkenau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1350.597,1370.471"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, en nuestra región, dónde yo trabajaba, estaba más o menos a...digamos...50 Km. de Auschwitz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1370.471,1385.72"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1385.72,1386.423"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Y ahí verdaderamente no se sabía nada de las cámaras de gas y de esos crematorios. 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Bueno, ¿no hubo alemanes, polacos que trabajaban en Auschwitz que tenían...que estuvieron allá de soldados y eso...que se regresaban y decían algo de esto?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1430.744,1444.712"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No...por nuestra parte yo no hemos encontrado tales soldados, puede ser que...yo no sé si los impidieron a ponerse en contacto con el...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1444.712,1457.77"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [Ininteligible]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1457.77,1459.504"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . Con el resto del mundo, o cómo lo hicieron pero...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1459.504,1461.988"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1461.988,1463.77"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . No me recuerdo de tal cosa. Sé solamente que se hablaba de que se llevaba a la gente allá y lo que yo mismo he visto son gente que sufría mucho bajo condiciones de trabajo...monstruosas, en los caminos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1463.77,1479.754"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Y la...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1479.754,1481.02"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: En una...exactamente en una vía ferroviaria donde lo pudo...lo pude observar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1481.02,1487.942"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Puede Ud. describir un poco lo que yo...lo que Ud. ha visto?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1487.942,1492.582"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, yo he visto que la gente trabajaba en...con...muy mala alimentada y eso...es lo que sobre todo se podía ver y que era...tenían...cabos que los trataban bastante mal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1492.582,1515.378"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Cabos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1515.378,1515.925"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1515.925,1516.331"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Los maltrataban físicamente?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1516.331,1520.519"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, eso también se veía de vez en cuando, no mucho, pero se veía de vez en cuando que los maltrataban.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1520.519,1530.628"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bueno. 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Bueno, ¿Ud. supo que las ciudades como Katowice o Sosnowiec que se construyeron los guetos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1549.831,1560.924"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: En Katowice no sé que había gueto. No había gueto en Katowice, creo que llevaron a los judíos a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1560.924,1570.393"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [Ininteligible] A otro lugar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1570.393,1571.487"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: A otro lugar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1571.487,1572.768"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. A Katowice lo declar...lo hicieron...cómo se llama...Judenrein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1572.768,1577.252"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1577.252,1577.674"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. Y...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1577.674,1579.424"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Allá no había judíos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1579.424,1581.549"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí, no había judíos desde el advenimiento de Hitler. Bueno, ahora, los otros chilenos que tiene Ud. aquí ¿qué clase de gente son, cómo ellos llegaron para acá?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1581.549,1594.799"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, es muy diferente. Entre ellos hay gente que vino para curarse, por ejemplo uno, que tenía una enfermedad terrible de sus ojos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1594.799,1608.58"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1608.58,1609.002"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Muchos estaban aquí para estudiar porque...era usual de mandar sus hijos y sus niños a Europa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1609.002,1618.97"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿De Chile?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1618.97,1619.907"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: De Chile, algún tiempo a lo menos. No todo el tiempo, sino unos dos, tres años a Europa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1619.907,1625.985"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1625.985,1626.703"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Y otros que vinieron por acá para visitar a sus parientes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1626.703,1630.656"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1630.656,1631.187"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Tenían padres...o...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1631.187,1632.797"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1632.797,1635.61"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . abuelos aquí que querían visitar, aquí o en Austria y en Europa Central.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1635.61,1642.594"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1642.594,1644.016"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Y también gente que estaba justamente aquí por sus negocios, por ejemplo trabajando, perfeccionándose como ingeniero y cosa tal, para emplear lo que habían aprendido en su patria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1644.016,1660.999"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Cómo? ¿Los forzaron de entrar al ejército? ¿Estuvo en el ejército?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1660.999,1664.755"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: A una...a algunos de ellos, a algunos jóvenes de ellos...seguramente los forzaron a entrar al ejército, aunque algunos podían evitarlo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1664.755,1677.598"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ajá.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1677.598,1678.129"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Pero pocos supieron evitarlo. Los que tenemos aquí son sobre todo...hay pocos jóvenes, entre ellos muchachos, son sobre todo niñas que tenemos aquí, algunos pocos jóvenes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1678.129,1691.578"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1691.578,1692.172"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Tenemos también algunos que...primero estuvieron en el ejército pero lograron salir otra vez de él y encontraron un empleo en el país mismo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1692.172,1708.312"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Um. Bueno, y...ellos se...hay algunos que son medio alemanes, medio chilenos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1708.312,1719.797"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Hay gente, sobre todo de seguro, es gente de descendencia alemana a lo menos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1719.797,1726.25"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. ¿Los hubo mucho en Chile?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1726.25,1727.938"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, hay bastante gente de descendencia alemana sobre todo en el sur de Chile que fue colonizado por gente de...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1727.938,1741.266"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¡Oh!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1741.266,1741.89"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . de descendencia alemana. En Valdivia, Osorno, Temuco, son ciudades donde uno encuentra muchos nombres alemanes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1741.89,1750.707"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Pues allá parece que estuvieron en América del Sur ciudadanos muy buenos, muy útiles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1750.707,1757.472"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, claro, hasta el estallido de la guerra esa gente tenía muy buen renombre en Chile y nunca se metió en la política chilena y...disturbó la política. Tampoco durante la guerra yo no he oído nada de eso y, por eso, tampoco hubo grandes canjes como las hubo por ejemplo en las Americas Centrales.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1757.472,1785.533"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí. Pues dígame, Ud. dice que salió de Chile ¿en qué año?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1785.533,1790.939"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: ’28.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1790.939,1792.064"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ’28. 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Ahora queda solamente, más o menos un millón pero que...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2061.069,2076.178"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Que se consideraban verdaderamente polacos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2076.178,2078.256"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: No, es que quieren expulsar todavía. 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¿A Hitler o a los...polacos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2134.539,2142.399"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Los sentimientos en...por...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2142.399,2147.101"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ¿Por los rusos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2147.101,2148.289"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . por los rusos y los polacos no son muy amables porque fueron tratados bastante mal por ellos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2148.289,2154.804"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2154.804,2155.523"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Y es claro que el que trata mal...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2155.523,2157.038"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2157.038,2157.882"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/691","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: . . . tiene que pagarlo con malos sentimientos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2157.882,2161.101"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sí, claro, pero por otro modo ellos pueden...podrían pensar o entender, si Hitler no hubiera comenzado todo...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2161.101,2171.101"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Eso es claro, eso se dice la gente la gente que piensa, pero la mayoría de la gente no piensa sino sufre solamente en el momento y ve al que le hace sufrir y eso es una cosa que hace bastante daño. Uno puede pegar a un otro y decirle “Hitler tiene la culpa porque me pegó a mí,” pero él al que pega siempre ve solamente al que está delante de sí, no ve a las causas que están más lejanas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2171.101,2207.146"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Pues esa es una observación muy interesante Don Ernesto, porque a veces nosotros pensamos si la humanidad hubiera aprendido alguna lección de toda esta catástrofe, ¿qué piensa Ud.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2207.146,2224.568"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernesto Moeller-Arnold: Sí, la lección que debiera aprender es simplemente acabar un día con las hostilidades y uno tiene que empezar por acabar, porque s iempre cuando se...se va pagando la cuenta, eso continúa hasta el último juicio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2224.568,2250.66"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Pues Don Ernesto, muchísimas gracias. Yo quisiera tener algún reporte, información, de persona que estuvo en Alemania durante todo el tiempo y que podía observar las cosas un poco como un extranjero. Yo creo que a todos nos interesará mucho estudiar lo que Ud. a dicho.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=2250.66,2276.049"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/transcript/8037/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This concludes Spool 135. The interviewee was Don Ernesto Moeller-Arnold, a Chilean by birth who spent during the time of the war in Germany as a manager of various etstates, agricultural properties, and had some opportunity to observer...had some opportunity to observe—I am mixing my Spanish with my English—what has happened. Muenchen, September the 20th, 1946. 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href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Birkenau\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Birkenau\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1351.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Birkenau\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Birkenau\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1351.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Auschwitz\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Auschwitz\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1370.0,1385.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Auschwitz\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Auschwitz\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1430.0,1444.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca 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href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Sosnowiec\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Sosnowiec\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1539.0,1543.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Katowice\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Katowice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1543.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Gliwice\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Gliwice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1543.0,1547.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca 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href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Gliwice\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Gliwice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1547.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Katowice\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Katowice\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1547.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Sosnowiec\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Sosnowiec\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109#t=1547.0,1560.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17654/file/73109/annotation_set/1262/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eghetto: \u003c/b\u003eA Yiddish word referring to a walled section of a city in which Jews were required to live during the Middle Ages. 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