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Boder, conducted on September 24, 1946 at the UNRRA University for Displaced Persons at the Deutsches Museum in Munich, Germany. (Abstract)"," Roma Tcharnabroda lost both her husband and her legs in the Holocaust. A Polish Jew married to a Jewish physician in Kielce, she accompanied him as a nurse's aid when he was called up by the Polish army at the time of the German invasion. They ended up at L'viv in the Soviet zone of occupation and encountered the Germans for the first time when L'viv fell in June 1941. There they lived through the devastating pogroms carried out by local anti-Semites, both Polish and Ukrainian, who believed a Nazi story that bodies found at the city's NKVD (the Soviet secret police) jail were the victims of \"Jewish Bolsheviks.” Evidently both she and her husband managed to escape from a forced labor camp at L'viv, but Roma's husband fades from her story until their final separation in 1943, when she was sent to Majdanek. 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We are going to interview now a Polish-Jewish girl, a student, Miss Roma Tcharna—...Tcharnabroda, of whom...who has lost both of her legs in a concentration camp. That is, she suffered from frozen legs, and they were amputated three days after the Americans came to liberate them. 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Then when the Germans approached, my husband was subject to the draft and was a physician. 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However he was not enlisted, but received orders to, to move on eastward. I, as a “sister,” because in the gymnasium we also completed courses...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=77.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Then you were a nurse, a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=94.0,95.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, my training was only from the gymnasium, what we completed in the gymnasium...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=95.0,98.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e but as a nurse","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=98.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but one of those who are being called in emergency.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=100.0,102.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. 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Also in the direction of Rovna. And then from Rovna-the Russians were already there. And then we traveled to Lemberg and from 1939 until 1941 I was under the rule of the Russians—in Lemberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=114.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=131.0,131.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e In 1941, the Germans arrived in Lemberg. I sat through all the pogroms which took place in Lemberg right from the beginning. That means, from the first day when they arrived, and Brezizky [??] the prison, the famous prison was opened. The Germans have ascertained that there were many corpses, and that the Bolsheviks, before retreating have committed many atrocities, that is they had many...for example have cut off the legs, etc.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=131.0,166.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bolsheviks did that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=166.0,166.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e That’s what the Germans said, that Bolksheviks had done that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=166.0,171.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=171.0,171.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e But a committee of physicians, of Polish and Ukrainian physicians, who entered together with the Germans the Brezizky prison, made the remarks that the corpses, on the corpses no blood was visible at the cut off limbs. They even observed very “comic” situations, that when a part of the body is cut off from a living [person], blood is visible. 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Then I could still see him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=293.0,295.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Continue","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=295.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Then I ran away from the labor lager and from my husband too. And we arrived “on the black” in the Governor’s General District.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=296.0,304.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it mean “on the black”?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=304.0,305.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e “On the black” means without permission of the German authorities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=305.0,307.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where did you arrive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=307.0,308.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Near Kielce in a small town, to Nielpe [??]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=308.0,311.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Why do you call it the “Governor General’s district”?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=311.0,314.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Because then they established already the term “Governor General’s district.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=314.0,318.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So. 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Aha...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=351.0,351.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e The Jews from Warsaw did[not]know yet anything for sure...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=351.0,355.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e But these, the Poles knew already, because they knew where all these transports...Yes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=355.0,356.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . with Jews came from. And so I obtained Aryan papers, and fled to Warsaw. I was on the Aryan side until the end of 1942.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=356.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e The Aryan side means outside, outside...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=370.0,373.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Outside of the ghetto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=373.0,373.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Outside the ghetto, yes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=373.0,374.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e At the end of 1942 I was compelled to enter the ghetto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=374.0,379.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How come? If you had Aryan papers...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=379.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...because there was an entirely special strata in Polish society which occupied itself with betraying of the Jews, very simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=381.0,381.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=381.0,393.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And then simply I was compelled...I was robbed of everything and I was compelled to go to the ghetto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=393.0,400.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=400.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . naturally without a penny. That was after the so-called first deportation from Warsaw. The Warsaw ghetto was already then very small. According to statistics it had only fifty thousand Jews. But some were still in hiding and there probably were more. I went through the second deportation in 1943, in January. Then there were the so-called “Value Conservation Installation,” that was a Germany Company; it occupied itself with sorting out of all the things that remained after the Jews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=401.0,436.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What was it called, “Value...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=436.0,438.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Value Conservation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=438.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Value...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=440.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Conservation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=440.0,441.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Conservation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=441.0,442.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=442.0,442.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That was a German Company?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=442.0,443.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And the Jews were compelled to work there. It so happened that I worked on this installation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=443.0,448.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And what were they doing there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=448.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e What were they doing...they were sorting...bed linen, and such clothes, each","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=450.0,455.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e and where did they get it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=455.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e From the ghetto proper. There was a big store-house of all the things that remained behind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=456.0,462.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=462.0,462.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And so. There I went through the second deportation. There still remained people in Warsaw. May I tell something about those people in misery, whom I have seen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=462.0,472.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, yes. What you have seen, you should tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=472.0,474.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And so. During the actual deportation, troops were taken from us “for work.” That means I entered a room where an old woman was lying on a bed. She held in her hand a card; she apparently wanted to show that she was occupied somewhere. And with this card in her hand and her mouth open, she was shot. The cry of death was still “glaring”[?]from her face, and the open mouth, the last outcry...one should not forget it. Then we came, we saw the most varied scenes, which are completely indescribable, because this could last for long hours. The Jewish police has gathered together the bodies, which we still saw, saw them at work. The streets were full of blood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=474.0,523.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean, bodies that you had seen, or people that you had seen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=523.0,527.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e With bodies of people, because they were shooting during the march. All the columns which were led to the square, now the name of the square, that I have already forgotten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=527.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=538.0,538.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e The square, that was a siding that led to the railroad. And from there all transports were sent to Treblinka.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=538.0,547.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where is Treblinka?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=547.0,550.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Treblinka is eastward from Warsaw.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=550.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How far about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=554.0,555.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e A three hour trip.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=555.0,557.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm. Near what city is it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=557.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e What city...towards Bialystok, in the direction of Bialystok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=559.0,562.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, now continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=562.0,565.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. We had then already the first attempts at resistance in the Warsaw Ghetto . There were cases of shootings but not yet coordinated. The organizations worked, but it was not yet, the work was not yet coordinated, and the help from outside was very small. Second—we knew only one thing—that the struggle was lost. We are a last platoon that must die. At that time they took the children, the children’s home where the [rather ] famous Jewish...Jewish educator had worked. The Child of Poland—is his work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=565.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=606.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I have forgotten his name too...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=606.0,612.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Continue","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=612.0,612.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. The children were taken. The way in which the children were taken was also interesting. The Germans SS entered and gave the children chocolate, so that the children [would]be willing to go. The management of the hospital...of the childrens home went with them. There were even attempts to demand the release of a few. But they would not accept the demand. They would not accept the demand for release.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=612.0,642.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That means to return [the children]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=642.0,643.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, the release...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=643.0,644.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the children or of them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=644.0,645.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e The management. The management of the Jewish children’s home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=645.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=650.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: went with them...also then many went. Many however still remained. We were still needed for work. Not everything was yet in order. And so we continued working for a couple of months. In March came the last deportation. That was the day of the Jewish holiday, Easter, Pesach. And so we continued working for a couple of months. In March came the last deportation. That was the day of the Jewish holiday, Easter, Pesach. And so before Pesach.we were given a large [allotment]. That means a food allotment, a larger one, so that we should be more calm. The [first]...at night, at two o’clock, the signals were passed: \"yes, there comes again a deportation.\" The Ghetto was surrounded with various collaborators of the German SS. 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The first transport during the last deportation went to Treblinka.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=736.0,744.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] It is here...as I said before an interview at the university where I am forced to interview a certain number of students. I therefore have to give them a limited time. That is the first time in my procedure that I am doing it and am therefore insisting to get the personal story of Mrs. Tcharnabroda, to skip the possibly very important personal story about the ghetto and about the transportation to the concentration camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=744.0,777.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In German] And so you were in Majdanek?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=777.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=778.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=779.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And so the first transports went to Treblinka. The last, I was in the last, went to Majdanek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=779.0,785.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And where was your husband?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=785.0,786.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Always with me, together, to Majdanek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=786.0,789.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=789.0,790.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e First we got to the airfield Plaza Lashkevich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=790.0,793.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you no children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=793.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No. First we were taken to the airfield Plaza Lashkevich, that is near Lublin. There, at this airfield, we already...the men were taken in another direction, and we in another direction. It was then that I lost the husband.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=794.0,812.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh. Did you ever hear from him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=812.0,815.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=815.0,816.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=816.0,817.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Then we were...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=817.0,818.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How does that stand up legally and officially? Are you recognized as a widow?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=818.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=823.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How come, in spite of that you...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=823.0,824.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Because I had received later a message that he was sent to Travniki, and Travniki was so annihilated that not a single witness had remained.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=824.0,832.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh...continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=832.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [pause] Then, the next day we were taken to Majdanek. That is two kilometers on the Kelmer [??] road, that is the read to Kelm [??]. We were led two kilometers along that road under guard [??] of the SS. That means that for every five women, four SS were marching along, [laughter] with their arms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=833.0,855.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e For every five women, or for every five rows?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=855.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Five women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=857.0,859.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . four SS.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=859.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Four SS were marching along, with arms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=860.0,861.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=861.0,861.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course we did not know, where we were going. We thought that straight into the ovens. 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And the dogs barked, and then some [people] the older women and the sick were pushed to one side. These did not come out anymore from the bath house. Afterwards we were bathed, and we were...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=898.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e In the same bath house?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=920.0,922.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. But the bath house was divided in two parts. This was the old crematory. The new was not yet ready. 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They cried terribly. But among us were such [women] who said: If they are not ashamed, why should we be ashamed. 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We were told everything will be allright. A propaganda was even conducted that we are going not in the ovens, but that we are here for work etc. They even brought in women with children. Among the women and children there were two barracks, which represented the so called quarantine, quarantine. Then we were naturally assigned boards and [word not clear]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=983.0,1015.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1015.0,1016.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Boards, in the barracks","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1016.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e to sleep on...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1017.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. The first days it was not so bad. Then it began. They have received orders to beat more, because too few of us were dying. The contingent of dead was too small, Right the first days. Then the sickness of diarrhea [?]. From this sickness very many died. Why? [??]—[in a positive tone] the Jewesses were not permitted to come to the revier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1017.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e ...hospital?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1045.0,1045.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: ...to come to the hospital. For the Jewesses it was only one thing: healthy or dead. No revier, no sick...no help for the sick. There were also Polish women. They came from Warsaw, from Paviak [?] from the prison, political [prisoners]. And they were helping us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1045.0,1065.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it mean Polish political prisoner?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1065.0,1067.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Political prisoners, that means no such that were simply picked up on the street. But such who for politics [were] taken to the Paviak prison and later sent away to Majdanek. These were helping us. That means they brought us medicines, which were simply stolen from the revier, and they gave us [?] various medicines. Later is started, that every week there was a selection [the spool becomes noisy and in places indistinct]. The SS[?] for that selection [here is an empty streak on the reproduction and it should be checked with the original. It is also possible that we have turned away from the microphone. I apparently asked her about stoppage in menstruation].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1067.0,1101.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...about 90%. Right after we arrived in the lager we all stopped menstruating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1101.0,1108.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How was that explained?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1108.0,1111.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: The German physicians explained it was due [??] to excitement, and also due to absence of men.[Footnote: There were various “medical” legends in the lagers and in the DP camps.—DPB.] Such was the explanation of the physicians. We were unable to detect whether there was something in the food or not. Of course we were too exhausted from the journey [?] to be able to notice, what was going on. At any rate up to 90% lost the menstruation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1111.0,1136.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And how long did that last.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1136.0,1138.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e For some it was forever, for some, for quite a few it has returned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1138.0,1142.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e After liberation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1142.0,1143.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, after liberation. After nine, ten months. Also in Majdanek. [?] Each week begins with a selection, that means the theme in Majdanek was completely obvious [?]. We spent sixteen hours in the open air. We were not permitted to enter the barracks during the day. That means even if it rained or anything we had to stay outside. We could not enter the barracks—for full eighteen hours. 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Such was the climate. It was windy, and then again sun. And it burned very hot [?] so that the legs would swell, and at that time during selection he looked only at the legs: whether they were swollen or not. So that many completely healthy and strong women, only because their feet were swollen—were compelled to go into the oven. [With didactic expression] And then exactly every week, a whole transport went into the oven. The SS man stood there eating candy bonbons. And, with the bonbon in his mouth, he pointed, this one to the right, and this one to the left. And what that meant—we knew already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1184.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] This concludes Spool 155 [B] with the interview of Ms. Roma Tcharna— Tcharnabroda. In spite of...[spool ends abruptly]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1225.0,1246.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Munich, September the 24th. We are working...we are working under very great pressure. I am leaving tonight and it’s four o’clock. The Senate of the UNRRA University, the International University of displaced people is expecting that I will attend a short meeting of theirs; and I have here a most interesting interviewee, Ms. Roma Tcharnabroda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1246.0,1270.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In German] Now continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1270.0,1272.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e After this selection, a few hundred women disappeared from the warehouse. In the evening we saw a big fire and the next day, the whole day we felt the smoke of burning flesh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1272.0,1287.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Were they burned in the oven or in the crematoria?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1287.0,1289.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e In the creamatories. And then—the creamtories were not yet completed. For that reason they gas-killed them in the bath house, and then they laid the bodies out in the field. There was a big ditch in the field, such as in a [word not clear] and there they were burned. 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M-a-j-d-a-...that is known—Majdanek","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1324.0,1328.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1328.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Maj-da-nek","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1329.0,1330.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . nek. Continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1330.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And then a few days later, we would go as a working crew to that place, and carried the ashes into the fields. The fields of Majdanek are now fructiferous, from the ashes of the burned people, Now then...these selections were insufficient. They had to present us with another spectacle, and that was the hanging in Majdanek. It was supposedly as punishment for escape, allegedly some had attempted to escape. That was also not true. Because it was impossible to imagine that such a thing could be attempted there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1332.0,1366.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Were there women and men, or...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1366.0,1368.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Women. I am speaking about the women’s field.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1368.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And women were hanged?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1370.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1373.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now what...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1373.0,1374.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e A...that happened...that was soon...two months...March...April, May, in May, a woman was brought in. She must have...all at once we noticed that in the middle of the field some- thing was standing. We really did not know what it meant. 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She stood upon the chair and then the SS man asked: what would be her last wish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1393.0,1413.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1413.0,1414.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I stood then very near. She said she had no wish from the Germans. So he asked her whether she regretted her deed. So she said, she was not attempting to escape, because that was absurd. But if she only had a chance, she would have done it. She regrets nothing at all, because life at any rate has no worth, and she dies readily. But to slap him in the face, she probably was too weak. She died calmly without a single outcry. That woman was twenty three years old. Then we had to stand as punishment,—we don’t know what for—but as punishment we had to stand and look at the dead [woman] for three hours. When the appell was over...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1414.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Who performed the hanging?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1462.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e An SS man. He...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1464.0,1466.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did she suffer much?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1466.0,1467.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No. He only swung the noose around her neck and pushed the chair away with his foot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1467.0,1474.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did he first cover her face?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1474.0,1476.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No. She died with open eyes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1476.0,1479.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So you saw the dead woman afterwards and the face of the dead woman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1479.0,1482.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I stood for two hours afterwards, directly in front of her at a distance of about ten meters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1482.0,1490.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How did she look?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1490.0,1491.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Perfectly calm. Her hands were stretched downward and folded.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1491.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And her face?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1495.0,1496.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...her face downward, fixed like this [one word not clear] looking downward and perfectly alm as if she would have been...no, perfectly calm as if she slept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1496.0,1505.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1505.0,1506.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Afterwards we had to stand for several hours and look at the dead. When the appell was over we did not go away. There were at that time twenty thousand women at the appell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1506.0,1518.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Twenty thousand...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1518.0,1519.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [emphatically]...thousand women, prisoners, for appell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1519.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now how do you know the number?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1521.0,1522.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [irritated] It was...we carried numbers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1522.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e But not all were there. Many were annihilated...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1525.0,1528.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, sure, but how many...few were missing because every day they take count.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1528.0,1533.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1533.0,1533.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And each block was counted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1533.0,1534.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And you knew how many there were?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1534.0,1536.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I know exactly. [emphatically] There were over twenty thousand in the lager at that time. We all remained standing, without having agreed upon. We all remained standing for several minutes. The SS even thought [giggling] that we had attempted a revolt. We only remained standing to honor the dead [woman]. And even all [of us]. That time there were already Russian [women], Polish [women] and Jewesses. And all remained standing like dead after the end of the appell. 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They had torn down from the Polish women all the medallions, and all such objects; they said, “Here one needs no God any more.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1573.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1583.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ‘God won’t help you anyway:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1583.0,1585.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You see I do know it, to be sure; but I am asking it for my American friends...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1585.0,1589.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [laughing] Yes, they know very little about this [laughter]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1589.0,1591.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1591.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Interesting, a chapter by itself is the qurantanne, the quarantanne where...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1593.0,1599.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e the quarantine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1599.0,1600.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e the quarantine, the quarantine, yes, where there were women with children. There were no multiple level plankbeds, because the children could not climb up there. All children were lying on the floor. We were not permitted there, but we wanted to see what that really was. So at times we would enter with one cleaning detail to sprinkle around the chlorine. And the children were lying on the floor and it was full of excrements, because the children could not step out at night. And a child does not look out. In hell one does not see such sights as one has seen there. Dirty, hungry children, like animals, everything, they all looked. And then one “nice” morning, all the children with...with their mothers were taken in such a vehicle, in automobiles, a few automobiles, arrived, they were all taken [to] the creamtory and that was all. Then they brought into the quarantine Greek Jewesses, [didactically] two hundred women from Salonika. These were brought from Auschwitz. We could understand each other very little, because they spoke only Greek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1600.0,1665.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1665.0,1666.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...they spoke Greek. Some of them understood Hebrew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1666.0,1667.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1667.0,1667.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And with these one could communicate a bit. After a month, these too had disappeared from the lager. The quarantine came to an end. The two hundred Greek women from Salonika were killed in Majdanek. Then they brought in Russian women, Russian [women] from Smolensk, from that district, from that region. This was a part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1667.0,1697.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Russian Christian women?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1697.0,1698.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. This was only a part, who had come alive from the battle of Smolensk. They too went to the “smelt.”","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1698.0,1707.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1707.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Later, the strongest from among twenty thousand women were sent away in several transports. I was in the first transport, which was sent to a factory. I belonged that time to the strongest women and therefore I was sent away. Also this selection was terrible. We were looked at like at horses, the muscles tested like...the teeth, all that inspected...completely naked; this the SS men did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1708.0,1737.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they ever make a gynecological examination in search for coins, money or the like?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1737.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...for money. A few of the women were picked out at that time and examined.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1744.0,1748.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1748.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1749.0,1750.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean not at this particular occasion, but in general...did they just threaten with...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1750.0,1755.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, at that time that was done","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1755.0,1757.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e They performed gynecological...Who was doing that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1757.0,1759.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e A physician. A German physician in uniform.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1759.0,1762.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And that means they really searched for...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1762.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1766.0,1767.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e No go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1767.0,1769.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And then I was gone to a labor lager, to Skarzysko-Kamienna. There was a lager only for Jews who worked in a factory, an ammunition factory. Most of...there were already not SS, that is the lager were SS and Ukrainians, but as shop- shupes [shop-guards] we had Ukrainians and then there were German foremen, not SS. That was chateristic of the German psyche, that not only SS have all that perpetrated, but German foremen as well. There is known the name of a German foreman Krause, who out of Malice [?]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1769.0,1813.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What was the name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1813.0,1814.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Skarzysko-Kamienna [one word not clear].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1814.0,1818.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you know his first name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1818.0,1819.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No. Krause. That was the most terrible [thing] in the factory. When Krause would go by [laughter], then the machinery would go differently, even that [laughter]. He could [treat] women...sometime he would come drunk, pick a few women and rape them, and later they were shot—so that there [would] be no race polution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1819.0,1843.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. [three words not clear]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1843.0,1844.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e There was a well known SS Waffenschlager, Waffen- schlager [the name really means gunsmith but schlagen also means beating]. He did the same thing. The brother of such a raped woman lives here in Germany.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1844.0,1856.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e I should like to ask you something in general...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1856.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [interrupting] And here one more interesting thing. There was work of the furnaces [?? This word is either not clear or is a colloquialism which she did not clear up even when asked about it. One could not be too persistent with such questions]. The so called “yellow labor” [with pathos], at this yellow labor at the factory people perished.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1858.0,1868.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What kind of work was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1868.0,1869.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e At the furnaces [??] That is so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1869.0,1871.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, furnaces [??]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1871.0,1872.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Furnaces [??] Yes. One must take precautions, otherwise one perishes. And at these...at these furnaces [??]...at these furnaces the Jews worked, and perished in a few months. When they were already badly sick, they were...they were led away somewhere, led into the woods and there they were exterminated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1872.0,1893.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: I want to ask you one question: in general to what extent did women suffer from attempts of rape, or other advances of the guards?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1893.0,1905.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Officially it was prohibited. But it only appeared that way. For instance, from Majdanek, the most beautiful girls had disappeared.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1905.0,1915.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [a pause] Now go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1915.0,1916.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And then from Skarzysko we were taken to Czestochowa, also to a munitions factory. In Czestochowa there was a repetition of the beatings at work. The provisions were such that several died from hunger. The people from Majdanek suffered most. From twelve hundred women who came from Majdanek to Skarzysko and Czestochowa only very few remained. From the twenty thousand women at Majdanek there are now here—as far as I am able to ascertain—there remain approximately fifty. Then from Czestochowa we were transported to Germany, when the Russians approached. The first...I was in the first transport. The others remained behind, because they were already unable to drive them out. I came to Ravensbruck. In Ravensbruck the lager was prepared for approximately three thousand people. Afterwards by the end of nineteen forty-five...no 1944 and at the beginning of 1945 there were over sixteen thousand...sixty thousand people. I can not give the exact number. All the transports from the east were sent to Ravensbruck. The conditions were terrible. Four persons on one plankbed. Lice and the food, terrible. My work was chopping wood. At this wood chopping I had my feet frozen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1916.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That was in what year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2009.0,2011.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e At the beginning of 19...in January 1945.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2011.0,2014.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2014.0,2015.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e The SS woman saw that I am walking without, without stockings. And when I once reported to her that I am unable to work in the woods, I was given twenty five [strokes].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2015.0,2026.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What does that mean you have...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2026.0,2027.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Twenty five strokes on the bare back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2027.0,2030.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e When did that happen? As soon as you told her?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2030.0,2032.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes right away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2032.0,2033.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Not during the appell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2033.0,2034.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Not at the appell, right away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2034.0,2036.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Who administered the twenty five strokes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2036.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e An SS woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2037.0,2038.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Another, not the same to whom you spoke.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2038.0,2041.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e The same, the same. [pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2041.0,2044.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [timidly] Now did you permit it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2044.0,2045.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean “permit”? [loud laughter] “permit”? What does that mean “permit”? Can you imagine that “permit”? 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About resistance we could speak only in the WarsawGhetto, but not here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2053.0,2059.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Were they holding you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2059.0,2060.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [still laughing] But of course, they stretched me out and gave me twenty five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2060.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2065.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [the laughter has subsided] I have from it still now a very large scar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2066.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What were you beaten with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2070.0,2070.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e With a horse whip [riding whip].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2070.0,2075.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2075.0,2077.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e By that time I was already sick but I continued to go to work in the woods. There I worked for several months and had my legs frozen. When the Americans approached we were sent from Ravensbruck in the direction of Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2077.0,2096.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e On foot or by...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2096.0,2097.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, on vehicles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2097.0,2099.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e In automobiles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2099.0,2101.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, in locked box cars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2101.0,2103.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes, by train, by railroad...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2103.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And for eight days we were given nothing. That means not even water.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2104.0,2113.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now tell me, how does one live eight days without water.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2113.0,2116.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e That is interesting. [with apparent hostility]. Of course you are unable to imagine how much a human being can stand. That we know [ironic smile—revealed in a hm, continues accentuating every word] Eight days without water. At the end, that was near Bayreuth, we decided, there were already many dead, out of hunger, and of course, out of exhaustion, we decided to knock. Let them shoot. And we knocked so that they were afraid we will break up, smash up the whole boxcar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2116.0,2149.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2149.0,2149.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: They threatened: ‘we are going to shoot,’ and we said; ‘shoot,’ and so then they brought us ? from the Red Cross. And they said [she ironically imitates a supposedly friendly tone]: ‘children, we want to help you, why are you so restless?’ Then we...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2149.0,2165.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That was the Red Cross?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2165.0,2166.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, the SS. Then we were already children, because they saw, that with us it is not so easy. And then we continued traveling. We arrived in Burgau, a branch of Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2166.0,2180.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Not far from Dachau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2180.0,2181.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e A branch of Dachau. I don’t know how far...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2181.0,2182.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . a branch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2182.0,2183.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, a branch from Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2183.0,2184.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That is not very far from here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2184.0,2187.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I cannot orientate myself, because I don’t get around much on account of my amputated legs. We arrived there. It was still very cold, in white mantles, without underwear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2187.0,2199.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What does that mean in white mantles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2199.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Such...no, what do you call them...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2200.0,2202.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Cotton...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2202.0,2203.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Not cotton, such smocks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2203.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh smocks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2206.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: They gave us such mantles. No stockings. If one would get stockings—one was yellow and one black. And when we arrived we looked so terrible, that when the foremen from the Messerschmidt factory arrived to look us over and to take some of us for work, they openly stated: ‘That is an outrage.’ And then we came to Burgau. In Burgau were to be five hundred persons. But they sent in another transport. So there were a thousand women. And it started—spotted fever typhus. Very many women died from spotted fever. The Hungarian Jewesses suffered most, from spotted fever and from diarrhea. The lice were so spread out that one could not stand it. Then I came down with spotted fever, and with...and it commenced with my legs. I was unable to get up any more. From Burgau we were sent to Kirkheim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2207.0,2275.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And how did they send you? You...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2275.0,2276.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I was carried. The prisoners carried me, to Kirkheim. And from Kirkheim...I was completely sick, the legs were already black, so I was sent to the lager-revier, lager four, near Landsberg. The famous lager-revier in which thousands, more than thousands of people have died from spotted fever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2276.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That is not very far from here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2298.0,2299.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: No, not far, Landsberg. There I already...there it started already to fester—and they could not help me any more. The physicians came of course. They told me nothing, but I saw it was the end. Then evacuation from the lager. Whoever could still walk was chased away. I of course could not get up anymore. The first...the SS came and brought a horse cart. I told him then ‘shoot me.’ So he said: ‘no child, now you will live, it is I who will be hanged.’","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2299.0,2332.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Why, did he know already.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2332.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [laughter in her voice] He know already that the Americans are approaching. And there...it is interesting about the SS. If somebody comes forward and pleads to die, then you must live. But if you wish to live—then you must die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2334.0,2345.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2345.0,2346.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And because I told him with complete indifference that I wish to die—then he says—you must live. Then I was taken again to another lager, lager one, and in lager one I was liberated by the Americans. The last day before liberation,—the SS had run away, and we remained. The front passed through our lager. On one side were the Germans, on the other the Americans. And they were shooting at each other. Those who could get out, got out. I had to lie there. Then by accident the barracks of the SS caught fire, which stood nearby. And I thought then that the barracks were set on fire by us. Everybody who could still drag his legs, ran out. I did not know what to do, because such a death in...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2346.0,2393.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e ...fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2393.0,2393.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...in fire I did not want. Then I threw off all the blankets, and threw myself down...from the plankbed. And so I slid out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2393.0,2401.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was it a high plankbed or a low one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2401.0,2403.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e These were such earth barracks...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2403.0,2405.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, what kind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2405.0,2407.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...built into ground, very deep in the ground...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2407.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2410.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Like for dogs. And then, it was after the rain, I slid out, and it was after the rain. I did not have a good bandage, but only a paper dressing, and the...dirt and all that got in [into the wounds] and then everything came to an end and went kaput.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2410.0,2425.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2425.0,2426.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Two days after liberation the Americans took me to a German hospital, and physicians said, I will live only ten days. But I told them that I will stand ten operations. And I did stand it. However due to the beating that I got, as well as from lying—that spot was not completely [searches for words] nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2426.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Not completely healed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2449.0,2450.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . was not healed, and due to the lying it became irritated, and I developed a decubitus, and a hole [was formed] and still today the scar is that big. And I got through three operations. I got through three amputations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2450.0,2463.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you say, a decubitus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2463.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Decubitus, that is the scar, here such...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2465.0,2467.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Go on. Did they operate under chloroform?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2467.0,2470.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2470.0,2471.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2471.0,2472.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And the physicians predicted that I will die in ten days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2472.0,2474.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2474.0,2475.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I had thirty two kilos after liberation [weighed thirty two kilograms].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2475.0,2478.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How much do you weigh now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2478.0,2479.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Now? [laughter] Approximately over sixty. My height is one meter, sixty four [cm].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2479.0,2481.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2481.0,2482.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And I had thrity-two and in spite of that I pulled through. After liberation still very many died. From diarrhea. Because they started eating. It was terrible. People saw food for the first time [smiling].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2482.0,2495.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e In what lager was that, in Landsberg?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2495.0,2499.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e That was in the lager, I was in lager one at the end.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2499.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e But you were in the hospital in Landsberg?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2502.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. First I was in Holzhausen. There they cared for me very well. And from Holzhausen—to Landsberg to Schwaben [??] in Munich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2503.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...the lower leg, twenty centimeters below the knee. Right here, touch it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2514.0,2522.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Twenty centimeters under the knee. Now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2522.0,2524.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e That is called lower leg amputation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2524.0,2526.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2526.0,2527.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e ...both are lost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2527.0,2528.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2528.0,2529.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e And now I walk very well. In spite of the fact that the Germans said I won’t be able to walk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2529.0,2533.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And what are you doing here at the university?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2533.0,2535.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I study pharmacy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2535.0,2536.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And how are things here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2536.0,2539.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I am very satisfied with the university. The professors are very good to us, and they are so friendly. The relations between professors and students is so great, that indeed one could not find it at any other university.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2539.0,2551.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And how do the students get along?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2551.0,2552.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Very well. It is interesting. One was able to see that it is possible to live together. And when man lives with man then nationality plays no part. 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The first name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2579.0,2581.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Charles Helberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2581.0,2582.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2582.0,2583.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Charl Helberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2583.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Charl?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2584.0,2584.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Charles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2584.0,2585.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And that is an office on La Salle street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2585.0,2587.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What is his profession?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2587.0,2592.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I don’t know anything about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2592.0,2591.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Is it his office?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2591.0,2592.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e I don’t know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2592.0,2593.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What number on La 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225?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2596.0,2597.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e 24.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2597.0,2598.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e 224, La Salle, 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Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2610.0,2610.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e But I must wait for the quota. And “two legs” are not enough to get any preference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2610.0,2615.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How long...under quota do you come? The Polish?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2615.0,2619.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e On the Polish quota, and it is filled. Probably I have still to wait a year. And if by then UNNRA is out of existence then I have nothing to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2619.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, we’ll arrange that with the Nias. I myself will take care of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2625.0,2628.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [with friendly and somewhat skeptical laughter] Ya, they told me there that the quota [she means waiting list] is very large and that I can’t get over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2628.0,2633.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And the name is Charles Helberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2633.0,2635.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2635.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You don’t know what his business is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2636.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2636.0,2637.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What is he to you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2637.0,2638.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e He is the uncle of my mother. But he was interested very much from the beginning, but he is unable to do [much] and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2638.0,2645.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean—unable, no money?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2645.0,2646.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it is not the money. But besides what can that help me [her voice fades, she mumbles].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2646.0,2650.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You have what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2650.0,2651.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e [disconcerted] here I have nothing. I am maintained by UNRRA but...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2651.0,2655.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Does he send you packages?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2655.0,2656.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No, because he can’t send. Because they sent me a few times, [but] I did not receive them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2656.0,2665.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm. 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We have also learned that the potentiality of the human soul is very great. One can stand very much [laughter]. And that is told by a human being who runs around on false limbs. 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Charles Helberger?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2701.0,2704.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Helberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2704.0,2705.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hellberg, 224 North La Salle Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2705.0,2708.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2708.0,2709.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Chicago. And you don’t know his occupation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2709.0,2711.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eRoma Tcharnabroda:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2711.0,2711.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] This concludes the most interesting spool, number 155 at the UNRRA University. [Pause. Knocking sound.] These knocks are the knocks of the artificial legs of the young girl, who just talked to me, and she is now leaving the room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2711.0,2744.119"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8097/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/008/097/original/export_transcript_Tcharnabroda.txt?1725459787","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/008/097/original/export_transcript_Tcharnabroda.txt?1725459787"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["German transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] Munich, September the 24th, at Deutsches Museum, the UNRRA University. We are going to interview now a Polish-Jewish girl, a student, Miss Roma Tcharna—...Tcharnabroda, of whom...who has lost both of her legs in a concentration camp. That is, she suffered from frozen legs, and they were amputated three days after the Americans came to liberate them. 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Ist Ihr Mann hier?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=47.857,47.388"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Verloren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=47.388,48.693"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie haben Ihren Mann verloren? 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Ich als Schwester, weil wir haben das Gymnasium kurz beendigt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=77.689,94.486"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie waren auch eine Krankenschwester?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=94.486,95.951"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, das war nur, hm, hm, vom Gymnasium, nur vom Training im Gymnasium 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Also in die Richtung nach Rovno. Und dann von Rovno—da sind dann schon die Russen gekommen—und dann sind wir nach Lemberg gefahren und von 1939 bis 1941 war ich unter die Herrschaft von den Russen—in Lemberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=114.445,131.065"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=131.065,131.774"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: 1941 sind die Deutschen nach Lemberg gekommen. Ich habe alle Programme mit gemacht, die in Lemberg stattgefunden haben, das heißt vom ersten Tag wenn sie sind gekommen und, hm, Brzezinski, das Gefängnis, das bekannte Gefängnis aufgemacht. Die Deutschen haben festgestellt, dass dort viele, viele Leichen sind und dass die Bolschewisten bevor sie sind heraus gekommen, haben ganze [unverständlich] gemacht, das heißt sie haben sehr viele, zum Beispiel: Beine abgeschnitten, und so weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=131.774,166.803"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das haben die Bolschewisten getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=166.803,166.803"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das haben die Deutschen gesagt, dass die Bolschewisten haben das getan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=166.803,171.218"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=171.218,171.619"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, aber die Kommission von die Ärzte, von polnischen und ukrainischen Ärzte, die mit gekommen sind mit den Deutschen in das Gefängnis Brzezinski, haben eine Bemerkung gemacht, dass die Leichen, bei den Leichen...sieht man kein Blut nicht bei den abgeschnittenen Beinen. Man hat eine ganz komische Situation gesehen, dass wenn man bei Lebendigen abschneidet einen Teil vom Körper, sieht man noch Blut. 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Man hat noch keine Ahnung...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=252.262,252.262"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=252.262,263.372"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . von Krematorien gehabt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=263.372,264.261"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also wollen Sie mir das alles jetzt erzählen, wie es Sie gegangen ist, wie es Ihnen...gegangen ist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=264.261,268.411"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Mir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=268.411,268.579"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie es IHNEN gegangen ist, was Ihnen passiert ist, wie die Deutschen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=268.579,269.984"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also 1941, wie die Deutschen sind gekommen, war ich im Lager auf der Yanovska Strasse—Arbeitslager...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=269.984,278.929"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also die Deutschen haben Sie in ein...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=278.929,281.083"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja,in Arbeitslager eingezogen. Von dort bin ich weg...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=281.083,283.965"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo war Ihr Mann?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=283.965,285.031"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Mein Mann war auch in Lemberg und war auch im 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Warum haben Sie das gesagt „ General Gouvernat“?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=311.845,314.904"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Weil damals war schon die Benennung [unverständlich].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=314.904,318.842"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=318.842,318.952"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und dann von dem Gouvernat...war ich einige Monat in dem General Gouvernat, das war am Ende 1942, 1942 und dann hat es angefangen mit diesen Auslieferungen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=318.952,328.903"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=328.903,329.891"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Meine polnischen Freunde...wie Dinge angefangen haben in Warschau, da sind meine polnischen Freunde zu mir gekommen und haben gesagt: „Ihr geht alle auf Schmelz.“","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=329.891,337.125"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Die waren in Warschau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=337.125,338.39"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, ich war in einer kleinen Stadt in der Kielce Umgebung","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=338.39,342.031"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was haben Ihre polnischen Freunde gesagt? Ihr geht alle...“","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=342.031,343.915"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die Juden von Warschau gehen alle auf Schmelz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=343.915,347.406"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was heißt das „Schmelz“?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=347.406,348.182"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Schmelz, das ist eine deutsche Benennung—alle in Ofen rein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=348.182,351.204"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=351.204,351.711"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die Juden von Warschau haben noch nichts genau gewusst, aber diese...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=351.711,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=0.0,355.082"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: haben schon gewusst die Polen, weil man wusste, dass man [unverständlich] die eigentlichen Transporte von den Juden. Also ich habe arische Papiere bekommen und ich bin nach Warschau geflüchtet. Ich war auf arischer Seite bis Ende 1942 und dann...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=355.082,370.818"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Mit arischer Seite meinen Sie, das heißt ‚outside’...außen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=370.818,373.26"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . außerhalb vom Ghetto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=373.26,373.968"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=373.968,374.72"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Am Ende 1942 war ich gezwungen ins Ghetto rein zu gehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=374.72,379.169"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieso, wenn Sie arische Papiere hatten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=379.169,381.063"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja,...weil es war eine ganz besondere Schichte in der polnischen Gesellschaft, die..., die sich damit beschäftigt hat, die Juden auszuliefern, ganz einfach.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=381.063,381.063"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bitte weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=381.063,393.628"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, und dann war ich gezwungen ganz einfach, weil man hat mir alles geraubt und ich war gezwungen ins Ghetto zu gehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=393.628,400.885"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=400.885,401.365"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ohne einen Groschen natürlich. Das war nach der so genannten ersten Aussiedlung in Warschau. Das Warschauer Ghetto war schon damals sehr klein. Nach den Statistiken hat es fünfzig tausend (50.000) Juden noch gehabt. Aber diese waren noch...manche waren noch versteckt und es waren wahrscheinlich mehr. Ich hab mitgemacht die zweite Auslieferung 1943 im Januar. Damals war auch die so genannte „Werte Erfassung“, das war eine deutsche Firma, die hat sich damit beschäftigt mit alle, mit allen Sachen, die von den Juden zurück geblieben sind, alles zu sortieren...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=401.365,436.686"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was sind Werte...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=436.686,438.071"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Werte Erfassung.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=438.071,440.065"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Werte...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=440.065,440.841"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Erfassung.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=440.841,441.61"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Erfassung","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=441.61,442.107"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=442.107,442.424"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das war eine deutsche Firma?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=442.424,443.55"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. Und die Juden mussten dort arbeiten. Durch Zufall habe ich in dieser Firma gearbeitet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=443.55,448.857"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was hat man dort getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=448.857,450.063"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Was man hat getan, man hat sortiert , hm, Bettwäsche und diese Wäsche und diese Wäsche, jedes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=450.063,455.291"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wo hat man das bekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=455.291,456.527"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Wo? Im Ghetto selbst, das war so ein großes Magazin von all diesen zurück gebliebenen Sachen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=456.527,462.044"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=462.044,462.741"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also, dort habe ich die zweite Auslieferung mit gemacht. Es sind noch Leute in Warschau geblieben. Darf ich erzählen von diese arme Leute, die ich dort gesehen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=462.741,472.627"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, ja, wenn Sie sie gesehen haben, dann sollen Sie erzählen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=472.627,474.481"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also...während der Aussiedlung selbst hat man Truppen von uns genommen für Arbeit. Das heißt, ich bin in ein Zimmer gekommen, wo eine alte Frau auf dem Bett lag. In der Hand hat sie eine Karte gehabt, sie wollte...sie wollte wahrscheinlich zeigen, dass sie irgendwo beschäftigt ist und mit dieser Karte in der Hand und mit offenem Mund ist sie erschossen worden. Der Todesschrei war noch nicht richtig aus ihrem Gesicht und der offene Mund, der letzte Geschrei...man soll nicht vergessen. Dann sind wir gekommen und wir haben gesehen ganz verschiedene Szenen, die gar nicht zu beschreiben sind, weil das könnte lange Stunden dauern. Die jüdische Polizei hat zusammen genommen die Leichen, die wir noch gesehen zur Arbeit gesehen haben. Die Strassen waren voll von Blut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=474.481,523.772"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was heißt von Leichen, die sie gesehen haben oder von Menschen, die Sie noch gesehen haben?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=523.772,527.073"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Mit Leichen von Menschen, [unverständlich] die hat man geschossen. Alle Freunde, die, die man auf den Platz, das heißt...das heißt, der Platz heißt, hm, habe ich schon vergessen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=527.073,538.052"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah hm, bitte weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=538.052,538.342"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Der Platz, das war eine Nebenschleiße, der zu der Bahn führte—dort hat man alle Transporte nach Treblinka geschickt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=538.342,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=0.0,547.766"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=547.766,549.487"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo ist Treblinka?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=549.487,550.384"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Treblinka ist Ost—Ost West von Warschau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=550.384,554.336"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie weit ungefähr?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=554.336,555.405"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Drei Stunden Zeit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=555.405,557.189"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah ha. Nächst welcher Stadt ist es?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=557.189,559.712"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nächst welcher Stadt,...hm, so...Bialystok, in Richtung Bialystok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=559.712,562.983"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, bitte nun weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=562.983,565.744"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. Damals waren schon die ersten Proben von Widerstand im Warschauer Ghetto. Es waren Fälle von Schießerei, aber noch nicht koordiniert. Die Organisationen haben gearbeitet, aber es war noch nicht...die Arbeit war noch nicht koordiniert und die Hilfe von außen war sehr klein. Zweitens—wir haben gewusst alle, dass der Kampf ist verloren. Wir sind der verlorene Posten, der sterben muss. Damals hat man genommen die Kinder, das Kinderhaus—das Kinderhaus, wo der bekannte polnische—jüdische eigentlich, hm, der jüdische Pädagoge hat gearbeitet in...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=565.744,606.579"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=606.579,606.939"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . das Kind von Shalom, das ist, hm, das ist seine, hm, wie heißt der, das ist...ich habe den Namen vergessen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=606.939,612.306"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Gearbeitet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=612.306,612.795"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. Da hat man genommen die Kinder. Die Art auf welche man hat die Kinder genommen, war auch interessant. Die deutsche SS ist reingekommen und hat den Kindern Schokolade gegeben, damit die Kinder gehen wollen. Die Verwandten von die, dem Kranken..., von dem Kinderhaus ist mit gegangen. Man wollte sogar außen reklamieren einige. Aber diese haben...wollten das nicht annehmen. Sie haben...sie wollten nicht annehmen die nach Heraus-Reklamierung.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=612.795,642.8"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was heißt Herausgabe der Kinder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=642.8,643.497"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, die Herausgabe...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=643.497,644.792"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Der Kinder oder [unverständlich; beide sprechen zugleich]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=644.792,645.928"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die Verwaltung. Die Verwaltung von, hm, jüdischen Kinderheim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=645.928,650.351"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=650.351,650.924"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . ist mitgegangen. Also damals sind gegangen sehr viele. Viele sind aber doch geblieben. Man hat uns noch gebraucht für Arbeit. Es war noch nicht alles in Ordnung. Dann haben wir noch zwei Monate gearbeitet. Im März ist die letzte Aussiedlung gekommen. Das war am Tag vom jüdischen Fest von Pe...Pesach. Also vor Pesach haben wir eine große Zuteilung bekommen. Das heißt eine höhere Zuteilung, eine Grössere, damit wir ruhiger sein sollen. Und erstens...in der Nacht um zwei (2) Uhr hat man schon signalisiert, ja,...es kommt wieder die Aussiedlung. Das Ghetto umbesetzt mit verschiedenen Mithelfer von Leute SS. 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Litauer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=705.747,708.949"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=708.949,712.61"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und es waren viele Ukrainer von Russland, die auf die Seite von Deutschland übergegangen 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Der erste Transport während der letzten Aussiedlung ist nach Treblinka gegangen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=736.646,744.565"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] It is here...as I said before an interview at the University where I am forced to interview a certain number of students. I therefore have to give them a limited time. That is the first time in my procedure that I am doing it. And I am therefore insisting to get the personal story of Mrs. Tcharnabroda, to skip possibly the very important personal story about the, hm, hm, ghetto and about the transportation to the concentration camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=744.565,777.5"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Und sie waren in Majdanek?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=777.5,778.832"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=778.832,779.399"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=779.399,779.826"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also die ersten Transporte sind nach Treblinka gegangen. Die Letzten—und ich war in den Letzten sind nach Majdanek gegangen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=779.826,785.872"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wo war Ihr Mann?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=785.872,786.888"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Immer zusammen mit mir, bis nach Majdanek gegangen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=786.888,789.91"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=789.91,790.487"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Zuerst sind wir auf dem Flugplatz Lager...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=790.487,793.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Haben Sie Kinder?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=793.0,794.059"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein. Zuerst hat man uns gebracht auf den Flugplatz Lager Laskevich, das ist neben Lublin.Auf diesem Flugplatz hat man uns—da hat man die Männer in eine andere Richtung geschickt und uns in eine andere Richtung. Damals habe ich den Mann verloren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=794.059,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=0.0,812.788"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh. Haben Sie niemals mehr von ihm gehört?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=812.788,815.321"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=815.321,816.177"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=816.177,817.295"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Dann hat man uns...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=817.295,818.792"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie hält das gerichtlich und offiziell? Werden Sie als Witwe anerkannt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=818.792,823.123"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=823.123,823.662"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieso, trotz allem...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=823.662,824.299"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/662","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Weil später habe ich eine Nachricht gehabt, dass man hat meinen Mann hat Travniki geschickt. Und Travniki hat man vernichtet, so dass kein einziges Zeuge geblieben ist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=824.299,832.384"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=832.384,833.939"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/664","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Dann hat man...am zweiten Tag hat man uns nach Majdanek geführt. Das ist zwei Kilometer auf der Chelmer...auf dem Chelmer Weg, das ist der Weg nach Chelm. Zwei Kilometer auf diesem Weg geführt mit Assistenz von der SS, da heißt auf jede fünf Frauen sind vier SS gegangen mit dem...[lacht etwas]...mit dem Gewehr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=833.939,855.718"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Für jede fünf Frauen oder für jede fünf Reihen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=855.718,857.764"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Auf fünf Frauen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=857.764,859.281"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . sind 4 SS gegangen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=859.281,860.399"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . sind vier SS gegangen mit Gewehr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=860.399,861.615"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=861.615,861.863"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Wir wussten natürlich nicht wohin wir gehen. Wir haben gedacht, dass gleich in den Ofen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=861.863,867.859"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Warum? Haben Sie schon gewusst, dass das passiert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=867.859,869.685"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/672","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, dann haben wir schon gewusst davon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=869.685,871.621"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=871.621,872.2"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . weil Viele von Treblinka sind schon weg gelaufen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=872.2,874.336"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=874.336,874.905"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also dann wir sind hierher gekommen, zuerst war die Badeanstalt. Dann in Badeanstalt hat man eine Selektion durch geführt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=874.905,884.518"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Beschreiben Sie das. Wie hatten sie das getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=884.518,886.263"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das heißt hier kommt ein SS Mann und wir waren ganz nackt...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=886.263,890.812"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und dieses war ein Mann—nicht eine Frau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=890.812,892.846"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein Männer—Frauen auch, aber Männer mit Hunden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=892.846,896.758"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=896.758,898.329"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und dann hat man uns ganz einfach angeguckt, wie die Tiere—in die Zähne reingeschaut und die Muskeln probiert ganz einfach mit der Hand, und die Hunde haben gebellt...und dann Manche, die älteren Frauen und die Kranken—hat man auf eine Seite geschoben. Diese sind nicht mehr...von Badeanstalt nicht heraus gekommen. Später uns hat man ausgeladen und man hat uns...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=898.329,920.894"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In der selben Badeanstalt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=920.894,922.149"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, aber dort die Badeanstalt war in zwei Teile eingeteilt. Das war das Alte noch...Krematorium, das Neue war noch nicht fertig. Das haben wir selbst errichtet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=922.149,930.56"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=930.56,931.389"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also so sind...diese nicht mehr heraus gekommen. Wir sind dran gekommen in die Badeanstalt auch, wir sind gebadet und dann hat man uns andere Kleider gegeben, alles wurde weg genommen. Ausserdem hat man uns gesagt, wir sollen gar nichts verstecken, weil wir werden gynäkologisch untersucht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=931.389,948.663"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Männer haben es getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=948.663,950.128"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=950.128,950.638"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und [starkes Rauschen des Tonbandes; unverständlich]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=950.638,952.209"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Manche Frauen—vor Aufregung—weil sie zum ersten Mal ganz nackt gestanden sind zum Sehen, haben hysterische Anfälle bekommen und haben sehr viel geweint. Aber zwischen uns waren Manche, die haben gesagt: ‚ Wir schämen uns nicht, warum sollen wir uns schämen?’ Also, dann später hat man uns andere Kleider gegeben...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=952.209,970.262"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/691","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Haben sie Ihre Haare abgeschnitten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=970.262,971.378"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein...Lumpen natürlich und man hat uns auf Feld Fünf (5) geschickt. Das ist das bekannte Vernichtungsfeld. Dort waren wir...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=971.378,981.983"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In welchem Jahr war das?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=981.983,983.089"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: 1943, März. Also...auf diesem Vernichtungsfeld...die ersten paar Tage was alles ganz herrlich. Man hat uns gesagt, es wird alles gut sein. Und Propaganda gemacht, dass wir nicht in die Ofen rein kommen, sonder wir sind hier zum Arbeiten, und so weiter. Man hat sogar Frauen mit Kinder mit gebracht. Unter die Frauen und Kinder waren zwei (2) Baracken, das ware eine so genannte Quarantäne, Quarantäne. Dort...dann haben wir Bretter( Rauschen—unverständlich).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=983.089,1015.495"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1015.495,1016.254"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Bretter—in den Baracken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1016.254,1017.12"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Zum Schlafen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1017.12,1017.735"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, in den ersten Tagen war es nicht so schlimm. Dann hat es angefangen. Sie haben einen Befehl bekommen mehr zu schlagen, weil es sterben zu wenig. Das Kontingent von Toten ist zu klein, gleich in den ersten Tagen. Dann hat es angefangen gleich Krankheit von Durchfall. Von dieser Krankheit sind sehr viele gestorben. Warum? Die Jüdinnen durften nicht aufs Revier kommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1017.735,1045.389"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Krankenhaus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1045.389,1045.918"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Krankenhaus kommen. Für die Jüdinnen gab es nur Eines: Gesunde oder Tote. Kein Revier, keine Kranken...keine Hilfe für die Kranken. Dort waren aber schon Polinnen. Die waren von Warschau, von Pawia, vom Gefängnis—politisch—...und diese haben uns geholfen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1045.918,1065.725"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was heißt politische Polen—Gefangene?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1065.725,1067.202"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Politische—das heißt nicht von der Strasse genommen—ganz einfach, sondern die waren politisch im Gefängnis—im Pawia Gefängnis und wurden später nach Majdanek deportiert. Diese haben uns geholfen. Das heißt, sie haben unseren Kranken Medizin gebracht, das war ganz einfach gestohlen vom Revier und sie haben uns verschiedene Medikamente gegeben. Später hat es angefangen mit der—und es war einen Selektion. Die SS haben wieder Selektion [starkes Rauschen im Tonband; unverständlich] und man hat Manche, die danach wieder in das Lager gekommen haben [unverständlich]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1067.202,1101.838"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie wurde das erklärt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1101.838,1111.051"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die deutschen Ärzte erklärten das, wie wir gekommen sind—durch die [unverständlich; sehr starkes Rauschen im Tonband], die Aufregung—und dann weil es keine Männer gab. So erklärten die Ärzte das. Wir konnten gar nichts bemerken, ob das im Essen war oder nicht. Natürlich wir waren auch zu angestrengt von der Reise, dass wir nichts bemerkt haben. Jedenfalls über neunzig (90) Prozent hatten die Periode verloren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1111.051,1136.239"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/705","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wie lange hat das gedauert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1136.239,1138.323"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/706","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Bein Manchen auf immer, bei Manchen ist es, bei mir wieder zurück gekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1138.323,1142.363"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nach der Befreiung?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1142.363,1143.149"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, nach der Befreiung. Nach neun (9) oder zehn (10) Monaten. Also in Majdanek, da fängt jede Woche gleich an mit der Selektion. Das heißt, das Thema in Majdanek war ganz klar. Wir waren sechzehn (16) Stunden in der freien Luft. Wir durften nicht während des Tages in die Baracken kommen. Das heißt sogar, wenn es regnet und alles Mögliche, wir dürfen nur draußen sein. Wir dürfen nicht in die Baracken hinein kommen—für sechzehn Stunden—nur 8 Stunden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1143.149,1179.851"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/709","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1179.851,1180.817"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . nur 8 Stunden in den Baracken sein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1180.817,1182.863"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was haben Sie gearbeitet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1182.863,1184.109"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, ich muss Ihnen noch was erzählen von dem Klima. Das Klima war so, es war windig und dann sonnig und die ganze Sonne hat so gebrannt, so dass die Füße angeschwollen wurden. Und dann auch bei der Selektion hat er nur auf die Füße geschaut, ob sie angeschwollen sind oder nicht, so dass manche, ganz gesunde und starke Frauen, nur weil sie die Füße geschwollen hatten—müssen in die Ofen. Und dann jede Woche genau ging ein ganzer Transport in die Öfen. Der SS Mann ist gestanden und hat Bonbons gegessen. Und mit den Bonbons in dem Mund hat er mit dem Stecken gestiert, diese nach rechts und diese nach links. Und was das geheißen hat, haben wir schon gewusst.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1184.109,1225.189"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This concludes Spool 155 [B] with the interview of Mrs. Roma Tcharna— Tcharnabroda. In spite of...[spool ends abruptly]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1225.189,1246.818"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Munich, September the 24th. We are working...we are working under very great pressure. I am leaving tonight and it’s four o’clock. The Senate of the UNRRA University, the International University of displaced people is expecting that I will attend a short meeting of theirs; and I have here a most interesting interviewee, Ms. Roma Tcharnabroda.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1246.818,1270.825"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Also weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1270.825,1272.825"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nach wieder solcher Selektion sind—ein paar hundert Frauen sind verschwunden vom Lager. Am Abend haben wir ein großes Feuer gesehen und am nächsten Tag haben wir den ganzen Tag gespürt den Rauch von verbranntem Fleisch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1272.825,1287.336"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo wurden die verbrannt in den Ofen oder in den Krematorien?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1287.336,1289.636"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: In den Krematorien. Das war noch nicht gänzlich gemacht das Krematorium. Deshalb haben sie vergast in der Badeanstalt und dann haben sie die Leichen auf das Feld gelegt. Dort war ein solcher großer Graben auf dem Feld, fast wie ein Viereck und dort hat man sie verbrannt. Darüber haben wir jede Woche nach der Zeit der Selektion—jede Woche immer gesehen das große viereckige Feuer und dann haben wir gespürt den Rauch von verbranntem Fleisch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1289.636,1319.126"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das war in Majdanek?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1319.126,1320.294"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. Und dann...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1320.294,1322.907"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie schreiben Sie Majdanek?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1322.907,1324.013"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Majdanek—M A Jot D A...das ist bekannt Majdanek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1324.013,1328.462"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das weiß ich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1328.462,1329.011"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . nek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1329.011,1330.576"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . nek. Bitte weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1330.576,1332.34"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und dann nach ein paar Tage sind wir als Arbeitskolonne zu dieser Stelle gegangen und haben das, die Asche auf die Felder getragen. Die Felder von Majdanek sind fruchtbar jetzt von der Asche der verbrannten Leute. Dann...es waren zu wenig diese Selektionen. Man musste noch uns eine andere Vorstellung machen und das war das Aufhängen in Majdanek. Sie sagten es sollte sein ein Strafe für Weglaufen. Manche sollten probieren weglaufen—das war auch nicht wahr, weil man konnte sich nicht vorstellen, das überhaupt zu probieren dort","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1332.34,1366.805"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Waren dort Frauen und Männer oder?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1366.805,1368.522"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Frauen, ich spreche von Frauen im Feld.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1368.522,1370.905"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und man hat Frauen aufgehängt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1370.905,1373.111"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1373.111,1373.468"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und dann?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1373.468,1374.347"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also das hat...damals...das war gleich 2 Monate nach...März, April, Mai,...im Mai, da hat man eine Frau gebracht, die wusste nichts. Auf einmal haben wir gesehen, dass in der Mitte...mitten in der Feld etwas steht. Wir wussten gar nicht—eigentlich was soll das bedeuten. Also sie haben diese...wie heißt das?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1374.347,1393.193"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Den Galgen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1393.193,1393.762"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Den Galgen aufgerichtet und dazu diese Frau...nur wir sollten zu Appell stehen, denn wir sind alle im Viereck gestanden mit dem Gesicht zu dem Galgen und dann die Frau musste sich selbst den Stuhl holen. Sie hat sich raufgestellt auf den Stuhl und dann hat der SS Mann gefragt, was für einen letzten Wunsch sie hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1393.762,1413.637"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1413.637,1414.478"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ich stand ganz nahe dabei. Sie hat gesagt, sie hat keinen Wunsch an die Deutschen. Dann hat er gefragt, ob sie bereut ihre Tat. Da hat sie gesagt, sie hat nicht probiert weg zu laufen, weil das Unsinn ist. Aber wenn sie nur eine Möglichkeit gehabt hätte, hätte sie das getan. Sie bereut wirklich gar nichts, weil das Leben hat so wie so keinen Wert und sie stirbt ganz ruhig. Aber dazu, um ihn ins Gesicht zu schlagen, war sie vielleicht zu...schwach. Sie ist ganz ruhig gestorben ohne einen einzigen Geschrei. Die Frau war drei und zwanzig (23) Jahre alt. Dann mussten wir stehen zur Strafe—wofür wissen wir nicht—aber zur Strafe mussten wir stehen und auf die Tote schauen drei (3) Stunden. Wenn der Appell war zu Ende...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1414.478,1462.6"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer hat sie aufgehangen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1462.6,1464.325"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Wer? Ein SS Mann. Er hat...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1464.325,1466.279"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat er sie viel gequält?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1466.279,1467.584"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, er hat nur ihr die Schlinge um den Hals geschlagen und dann mit dem Fuß den Stuhl weg gestoßen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1467.584,1474.774"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat er ihr Gesicht zuerst verdeckt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1474.774,1476.78"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, mit offenen Augen ist sie gestorben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1476.78,1479.523"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Haben Sie gesehen die tote Frau nachher und das Gesicht der toten Frau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1479.523,1482.784"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ich bin gestanden zwei (2) Stunden danach ihr gegenüber in Entfernung von ungefähr zehn (10) Meter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1482.784,1490.087"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie hat sie ausgesehen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1490.087,1491.744"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ganz ruhig. Die Hände waren nach unten getroffen und zusammen geballt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1491.744,1495.846"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/747","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und das Gesicht?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1495.846,1496.533"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das Gesicht nach unten auch geblickt, das Kinn nach unten und ganz ruhig, als ob man hätte sie...also ganz ruhig, als ob sie schlief.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1496.533,1505.092"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1505.092,1506.647"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und wir müssen später stehen einige Stunden und haben geschaut auf die Tote. Wenn der Appell war zu Ende sind wir nicht weg gegangen. Es waren zwanzig tausend (20.000) Frauen damals beim Appell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1506.647,1518.645"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Zwanzig tausend (20.000)?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1518.645,1519.174"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Zwanzig tausend (20.000) Frauen—Häftlinge zum Appell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1519.174,1521.459"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieso wissen Sie die Nummer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1521.459,1522.767"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Es war...wir haben doch Nummern getragen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1522.767,1525.35"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Na ja, da waren aber doch nicht alle dort, viele waren doch vernichtet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1525.35,1528.671"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, aber wir sind da, wir wissen wie viele...man zählt doch jeden Tag —zählt man doch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1528.671,1533.066"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1533.066,1533.528"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und jeder Block wird gezählt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1533.528,1534.729"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und Sie haben gewusst wie viele es waren?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1534.729,1536.111"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ich weiß das genau. Es waren über zwanzig tausend (20.000) damals im Lager. Wir sind alle stehen geblieben—ohne dass wir sie verständigt haben. Wir sind alle für ein paar Minuten stehen geblieben. Die SS hat sogar gesagt, dass wir einen Aufstand [lacht etwas] hier machen wollen. Wir sind nur stehen geblieben, um die Tote zu verehren. Und sogar alle—damals waren schon Freundinnen, Russinnen, Polinnen und Jüdinnen und alle sind stehen geblieben nach dem Appell Ende. Später hat es angefangen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1536.111,1566.174"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Haben sie keinen Geistlichen gehabt? Keinen Rabbiner?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1566.174,1569.565"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Wen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1569.565,1570.072"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . um dort der Frau das letzte Geleit zu geben?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1570.072,1573.244"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ach Gott, die SS erkannte doch keine Geistliche. Diese haben doch runter gerissen von der Polin alle Medallionen und das alles und sie haben gesagt: „Hier braucht man keinen Gott mehr!“","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1573.244,1583.022"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1583.022,1583.854"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: „Gott wird Euch so wie so nicht helfen.“","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1583.854,1585.954"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sehen Sie, ich weiß es ja. Aber ich frage es für meine amerikanischen Freunde...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1585.954,1589.734"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, diese wissen sehr wenig davon [lacht etwas].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1589.734,1591.896"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bitte weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1591.896,1593.541"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Interessant—ein Kapitel ist für sich, es gib Quarantande, die Quarantande, wo...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1593.541,1599.601"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Quarantäne.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1599.601,1600.188"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die Quarantäne, die Quarantäne, ja, wo die Frauen mit Kinder waren. Dort waren keine [unverständlich] weil die Kinder konnten doch nicht rauf. Alle Kinder lagen auf dem Fußboden. Wir, wir durften nicht rein, aber wir wollten sehen, was das eigentlich ist. So sind wir manchmal mit der Reinigungskolonne rein gekommen, um Chlorgas aus zu schütten. Also die Kinder lagen auf dem Boden und es war alles voll Dreck, weil die Kinder konnten doch bei Nacht nicht raus gehen und ein Kind passt doch nicht auf. In der Hölle sieht man nicht solche Bilder, wie man dort gesehen hat. Schmutzige, hungrige Kinder, wie Tiere, haben das alle aus gesehen. Und dann einen schönen Morgen hat man alle Kinder mit den, mit den Müttern genommen auf einen Wagen, solche Autos. Die Autos sind gekommen, man hat diese alle genommen—ins Krematorium und es war aus. Dann hat man in die Quarantäne griechische Jüdinnen gebracht—zwei hundert (200) Frauen von Saloniki. Diese hat man von Auschwitz gebracht. Wir konnten sich sehr wenig mit ihnen verständigen, weil sie haben nur Griechisch gesprochen dann.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1600.188,1665.136"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1665.136,1666.079"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Sie haben nur Griechisch gesprochen. Manche haben Hebräisch verstanden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1666.079,1667.484"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1667.484,1667.848"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und mit diesen konnte man sich ein bisschen verständigen. Nach einem Monat hat...sind diese auch vom Lager verschwunden. Schluss mit der Quarantäne. Die griechischen zwei hundert (200) Frauen von Saloniki sind in Majdanek umgebracht worden. Dann hat man russische Frauen gebracht, Russische von Smolensk und von Lübeck, von dieser Umgebung. Diese, das war ein Teil...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1667.848,1697.349"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Russische, christliche Frauen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1697.349,1698.797"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, das war nur ein Teil, die von der Schlacht in Smolensk entkommen sind. Diese sind auch auf Schmelz gegangen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1698.797,1707.582"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1707.582,1708.358"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Später hat man die Stärksten von zwanzig tausend (20.000) Frauen, die hat man mit Transport weggeschickt. Ich war im ersten Transport, welche man hat in eine Fabrik geschickt. Ich gehörte damals zu den stärksten Frauen und deswegen hat man mich weggeschickt. Auch diese Selektion war schrecklich. Man hat uns angeguckt wie Pferde, die Muskeln angegriffen wie..., die Zähne, alles und noch dazu ganz nackt. Das haben die SS Männer gemacht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1708.358,1737.917"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat man dort einmal eine gynäkologische Untersuchung, hm Examen gemacht für Geld, für Geld oder solche Sachen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1737.917,1744.759"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Für Geld. Ein paar Frauen hat man damals raus genommen und sie untersucht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1744.759,1748.682"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja und.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1748.682,1749.708"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja und...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1749.708,1750.355"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ich meine nicht nur damals bei dieser Angelegenheit...aber im Allgemeinen...haben sie bloß gedroht mit einer...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1750.355,1755.912"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, damals hat man gemacht...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1755.912,1757.557"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Man hat sie gynäkologisch...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1757.557,1758.553"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1758.553,1759.837"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer hat das getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1759.837,1762.447"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/790","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ein Arzt, ein deutscher Arzt in Uniform.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1762.447,1762.612"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und das heißt, man hat also gesucht nach...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1762.612,1766.612"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. Ja, ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1766.612,1767.929"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1767.929,1769.307"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/794","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und dann bin ich weg in Arbeitslager—nach Skarzysko-Kamienna. Dort war ein Lager nur für Juden, die in einer Fabrik gearbeitet haben, eine Munitionsfabrik. Die Meisten—das waren schon nicht SS Leute—das heißt, die Bewachung vom Lager hat SS gehabt und Ukrainer, und als Werkschützen haben Ukrainer gearbeitet und dann waren deutschen Meister, nicht SS. Das ist wichtig für deutsche Psyche, dass Leute nicht nur SS hat das alles gemacht, sondern deutsche Leute auch. Jeder kannte den Namen von einem deutschen Meister Krause, weil er von [unverständlich; beide sprechen gleichzeitig]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1769.307,1813.761"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was war der Name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1813.761,1814.47"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Skarzysko-Kamienna [unverständlich]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1814.47,1818.181"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wissen Sie den Vornamen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1818.181,1819.786"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein. Krause. Das was das Schrecklichste an der Fabrik. Wenn Krause ist gegangen, dann sind die Maschinen anders gegangen [lacht etwas] sogar. Er konnte Frauen...manchmal ist er besoffen gekommen sogar, und paar Frauen raus nehmen und diese vergewaltigen, die man später erschossen hat, weil...damit keine Rassenschande ist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1819.786,1843.066"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja. [unverständlich; beide sprechen gleichzeitig]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1843.066,1844.09"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Es war ein bekannte SS Waffenschlager...Waffens...schlager. Der hat das Selbe gemacht. Der Bruder von solche einer vergewaltigten und toten Frau lebt hier in Deutschland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1844.09,1856.851"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ich möchte im Allgemeinen wissen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1856.851,1858.106"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und da noch eine Sache—Interessante. Dort war eine Arbeit bei Latrin, die gelbe Arbeit sogenannt. Bei der gelben Arbeit auf der Fabrik sind die Leute zum Tode gegangen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1858.106,1868.112"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was für eine Arbeit war das?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1868.112,1869.577"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Bei Latrin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1869.577,1871.483"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah, bei Latrin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1871.483,1872.222"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Latrin, ja. Wenn man...man muss Schutzmittel hier übernehmen, weil man sonst geht man zu Grunde. Und bei dieser...bei dieser Latrin haben die Juden gearbeitet und sie sind zu Grunde gegangen in einigen Monaten. Wenn sie waren schon ganz krank, hat man sie hin geführt...irgendwo in den Wald geführt und dort hat man sie vernichtet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1872.222,1893.728"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/807","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ich wollte eine Frage fragen; also im Allgemeinen, wie weit haben die Frauen gelitten von den Sachen wie vergewaltigen und anderen Advancen von den Bewach...von der Bewachung?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1893.728,1905.591"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das war eigentlich verboten, aber das hat nur so ausgesehen. Zum Beispiel, aus Majdanek die schönsten Frauen sind verschwunden","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1905.591,1915.024"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun weiter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1915.024,1916.04"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und dann von Skarzysko hat man uns nach [unverständlich; hört sich an wie Zyrstowa] gebracht, auch eine Munitionsfabrik. In [unverständlich; hört sich an wie Zyrstowa] hat sich das Schlagen bei der Arbeit wiederholt. Diese Schläge waren so, dass manche sind von Hunger gestorben. Am meisten haben gelitten die Leute von Majdanek. Von fünf hundert (500) die von Majdanik nach Skarzysko und nach [unverständlich; hört sich an wie Zyrstowa] gekommen sind, sind sehr wenig geblieben. Von zwanzig tausend (20.000) Frauen von Majdanek sind hier, hier—wie ich schätzen kann—ungefähr fünfzig (50) geblieben. Dann von [unverständlich; hört sich an wie Zyrstowa oder dieses Mal etwas mehr wie Cherstowa] hat man uns nach Deutschland wieder geschickt, wenn die, wenn die Russen nahe gekommen sind. Zuerst—ich war im ersten Transport. Die Anderen sind schon zurück geblieben, weil sie konnten sie nicht mehr weg [unverständlich]. Ich bin nach Ravensbrück gekommen. In Ravensbrück was das Lager vorbereitet für ungefähr drei tausend (3.000) Personen. Später am Ende 1945, nein 1944 und am Anfang 1945 waren über sechzehn...über sechzig tausend (60.000) Leute. Ich kann genau die Zahl nicht geben. Alle Transporte von...von Osten hat man nach Ravensbrück geschickt. Also die Bedingungen waren schrecklich. 4 Leute auf einer Pritsche. Läuse und Verpflegung schrecklich. Ich hab gearbeitet beim Holzhauen. Beim Holzhauen habe ich mir die Beine erfroren","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=1916.04,2009.655"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In welchem Jahr?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2009.655,2011.13"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Am Anfang 19...im Januar 1945.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2011.13,2014.456"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2014.456,2015.596"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die SS Frau hat gesehen, dass ich gehe ohne Strümpfe. Und wenn ich habe einmal gemeldet, dass ich kann im Walde nicht arbeiten, habe ich fünf und zwanzig (.25 )bekommen","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2015.596,2026.576"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was heißt das?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2026.576,2027.854"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Fünf und zwanzig (25) Schläge auf den nackten Rücken bekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2027.854,2030.337"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wann ist das passiert? Gleich, wie Sie gesagt haben?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2030.337,2032.732"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, gleich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2032.732,2033.678"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nicht beim Appell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2033.678,2034.716"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nicht beim Appell—gleich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2034.716,2036.243"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer hat Ihnen die fünf und zwanzig (25) Schläge gegeben?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2036.243,2037.758"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Eine SS Frau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2037.758,2038.704"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Eine Andere, nicht dieselbe, die es gesagt hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2038.704,2041.189"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die Selbe, die Selbe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2041.189,2044.133"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie haben Sie das lassen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2044.133,2045.438"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Was heißt lassen [lacht]...lassen, was heißt lassen? [lacht] Wie stellen Sie sich vor—das lassen! [lacht]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2045.438,2053.15"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Well, dann.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2053.15,2053.729"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Im Lager gibt’s kein Widerstand mehr. Wegen Widerstand können wir nur vom Warschauer Ghetto sprechen, aber nicht hier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2053.729,2059.807"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat man Sie angehalten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2059.807,2060.965"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Natürlich. Man hat mich niedergelegt und man hat mich...und man hat mir gegeben fünf und zwanzig (25).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2060.965,2065.25"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2065.25,2066.205"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Davon habe ich noch jetzt eine ganz große Narbe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2066.205,2070.967"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Womit hat man Sie geschlagen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2070.967,2070.967"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Mit einer Pferdepeitsche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2070.967,2075.498"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2075.498,2077.233"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Dann...dann bin ich schon krank geworden, aber ich bin weiter zu der Arbeit im Walde gegangen. Dort hab ich gearbeitet einige Monate und hab mir die Beine erfroren. Wenn die Amerikaner sind schon näher gekommen, hat man uns von Ravensbrück in die Richtung von Dachau geschickt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2077.233,2096.67"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Zu Fuß oder mit...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2096.67,2097.586"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein mit den Wagen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2097.586,2099.213"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In, in Autos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2099.213,2101.027"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, in geschlossene Pferdewagen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2101.027,2103.043"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh ja, bei Zug, bei Eisenbahn...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2103.043,2104.979"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. Und acht (8) Tage haben wir gar nichts bekommen. Das heißt, sogar kein Wasser.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2104.979,2113.723"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also, sagen Sie mir, wie lebt man acht (8) Tage ohne Wasser?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2113.723,2116.177"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das ist interessant. Eben...ihr könnt Euch nicht vorstellen wieviel ein Mensch aushalten könnte...kann. Das wissen wir! [Pause] Acht Tage ohne Wasser. Wir haben am Ende—das war in der Nähen von Bayreuth—haben wir beschlossen...es waren schon viele Tote...von Hunger...und von...natürlich von matt sein...haben wir beschlossen zu klopfen. Und sollen sie schießen. Und wir haben so geklopft, dass sie haben gefürchtet wir werden das brechen, das Ganze kaputt machen, den Wagen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2116.177,2149.251"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2149.251,2149.929"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Wie haben gedroht: „Wir werden schießen“ und wir haben gesagt: „Schießt!“. Also damals haben sie, haben sie gebracht vom Roten Kreuz Gruppe und haben gesagt: „Kinder, wir wollen Euch doch helfen, warum seid Ihr so unruhig?“ Dann sind wir...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2149.929,2165.4"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das war das Rote Kreuz?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2165.4,2166.536"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, die SS. Da waren wir Kinder, denn sie haben schon gesehen mit uns geht’s nicht so leicht. Und dann sind wir weiter gefahren und wir sind nach Burgau gekommen, eine Filiale von Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2166.536,2180.262"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nicht weit von Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2180.262,2181.527"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Eine Filile von Dachau...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2181.527,2182.635"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Filiale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2182.635,2183.282"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, Filiale von Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2183.282,2184.707"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und sie sagen nicht ganz weit von Dachau.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2184.707,2187.092"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ich orientiere mich nicht, weil ich fahre jetzt nicht weg, wegen meine amputierten Bein. Dorthin sind wir gekommen, das war noch ganz kalt in weißen Mänteln—ohne Wäsche.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2187.092,2199.76"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was meinen Sie mit weißen Mänteln?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2199.76,2200.716"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Solche...na, wie heißt das schnell...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2200.716,2202.942"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Baumwolle?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2202.942,2203.698"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nicht Baumwolle, solche Staubmäntel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2203.698,2206.902"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah, Staubmäntel!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2206.902,2207.71"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Solche Mäntel hat man uns gegeben, ohne Strümpfe, wenn man Einem Strümpfe gegeben hat, dann war Einer gelb und Einer schwarz. Und wenn wir sind gekommen haben wir so schrecklich ausgesehen, dass die Meister von der Fabrik Messerschmidt, die gekommen sind, um uns zu sehen und von uns Einige zur Arbeit zu nehmen, haben gesagt offen: „Das ist Schweinerei!“ Und dann waren wir in Burgau. In Burgau sollten fünf hundert (500) Personen sein, dann hat man noch einen Transport geschickt und es waren schon tausend (1.000) Frauen. Und es hat angefangen mit Fleckfieber. Von Fleckfieber sind sehr viele Frauen gestorben. Am meisten haben die ungarischen Jüdinnen gelitten—von Fleckfieber und von Durchfall. Die Läuse waren so schrecklich verbreitet, dass man konnte es nicht aushalten. Dann bin ich krank...von Fleckfieber krank geworden und mit...damit hat angefangen mit den Beinen. Ich konnte schon nicht mehr aufstehen. Von Burgau hat man uns nach Kirchheim geschickt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2207.71,2275.022"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wie hat man sie geschickt? Sie...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2275.022,2276.25"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Man hat mich getragen, die Häftlinge haben mich getragen—nach Kirchheim. Und von Kirchheim...ich war schon gänzlich krank, die Beine waren schon schwarz...hat man mich ins Lager-Revier, Lager vier (4) geschickt, neben Landsberg. Das bekannte Lager-Revier, wo Tausende, mehr wie tausende Leute gestorben sind vom Fleckfieber.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2276.25,2298.553"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das ist ja nicht weit von hier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2298.553,2299.731"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, nicht weit—Landsberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2299.731,2301.723"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2301.723,2303.129"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Dort habe ich—dort habe ich angefangen schon zu eitern und...man konnte mir gar nicht helfen. Die Ärzte sind gekommen, haben mir natürlich gar nichts gesagt, aber ich habe gesehen, es ist Schluss. Dann Evakuierung vom Lager. Wer gehen konnte, ihn hat man fort gejagt. Ich konnte natürlich nicht mehr aufstehen. Der erste SS Mann ist gekommen und hat einen Pferdewagen gebracht. Ich habe ihm gesagt damals: „Erschießen sie mich.“ Hat er gesagt: „Nein, Kind, jetzt wirst Du leben, ich werde aufgehängt werden.“","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2303.129,2332.686"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Warum—hat er das schon gewusst?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2332.686,2334.253"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Er hat gewusst, dass die Amerikaner nahe kommen. Und dies ist...ist interessant eben von der SS. Wenn jemand sie wirklich bittet um den Tod, dann musst du leben. Aber wenn du leben willst...dann musst Du sterben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2334.253,2345.668"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2345.668,2346.457"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und weil ich eben gesagt habe—ganz gleichgültig—ich möcht sterben, dann sagt er, Du musst leben. Dann hat man mich wieder in ein anderes Lager—Lager Eins—gebracht und im Lager Eins wurde ich von den Amerikanern befreit. An dem letzten Tag vor der Befreiung—die SS ist weg gelaufen und wir sind geblieben. Die Front ist über unser Lager gegangen. Auf der einen Seite waren die Deutschen, auf der anderen Seite waren die Amerikaner und die haben sich gegenseitig beschossen. Diese, die raus laufen konnten sind raus gelaufen, ich musste liegen. Dann, per Zufall, sind die Barracken von der SS angezündet worden, die daneben standen. Und damals habe ich gedacht, dass man hat die Barracken von uns angezündet. Alle—wer noch mit den Füßen rutschen konnte, sind raus gelaufen. Ich wusste nicht, was zu tun, weil so ein Tod im...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2346.457,2393.608"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Feuer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2393.608,2393.955"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . im Feuer wollte ich nicht. Dann habe ich alle Decken herunter geschmissen und ich hab mich selbst herunter geschmissen von der Pritsche. Und so habe ich heraus gerutscht, es war...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2393.955,2401.716"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was es eine hohe Pritsche oder eine Niedere?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2401.716,2403.223"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, es war schon solche Erde-Baracken...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2403.223,2405.938"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, was für welche?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2405.938,2407.283"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . in der Erde gebaut, ganz tief in der Erde....","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2407.283,2410.028"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/877","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2410.028,2410.295"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/878","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: So wie für Hunde. Und das war—es war nach dem Regen, ich bin heraus gerutscht und es war nach dem Regen. Ich habe keine gute Bandage gehabt, nur als Verband gehabt nur solche aus Papier und der Regen und der Schmutz und da alles ist rein und damals ist zu Ende und ist alles kaputt gegangen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2410.295,2425.929"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2425.929,2426.486"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Zwei Tage nach der Befreiung haben mich die Amerikaner hier in das deutsche Krankenhaus gebracht und die Ärzte haben gesagt, ich werde nur zehn (10) Tage älter. Aber ich habe ihnen gesagt, dass ich werde zehn (10) Operationen aushalten. Und ich habe ausgehalten, trotzdem, dass ich habe diese Schläge—habe bekommen und dann beim Liegen—dass diese Stelle war nicht ganz, hm, ganz, hm, na...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2426.486,2449.785"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/881","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nicht ganz geheilt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2449.785,2450.751"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/882","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . ja, nicht ganz geheilt und durch das Liegen hat sich das aufgerieben und ich habe einen Dekubitus bekommen und ein Loch—ist noch heute die Narbe so gross. Und ich habe drei (3) Operationen ausgehalten—drei (3) Amputationen hab ich ausgehalten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2450.751,2463.33"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/883","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was haben Sie gesagt, ein Dekubitus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2463.33,2465.077"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/884","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Dekubitus, das ist die Narbe, hier das sehe...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2465.077,2467.031"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Weiter. Haben sie die Operation unter Chloroform gemacht?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2467.031,2470.833"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2470.833,2471.601"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2471.601,2472.16"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Die Ärzte haben festgestellt, dass ich werde in zehn (10) Tagen sterben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2472.16,2474.916"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2474.916,2475.44"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Zwei und dreißig (32) Kilo hab ich gehabt nach der Befreiung.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2475.44,2478.138"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was wiegen Sie jetzt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2478.138,2479.244"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Jetzt [lacht] ungefähr über 60. Ich bin einen Meter vier und sechzig (1,64) gross und 32 Kilo hab ich gehabt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2479.244,2481.817"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2481.817,2482.274"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/894","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und trotzdem habe ich ausgehalten. Nach der Befreiung sind auch noch sehr viele gestorben—von Durchfall. Weil sie haben angefangen zu essen. Es war doch schrecklich, man hat zum ersten Mal das Essen gesehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2482.274,2495.645"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/895","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In welchem Lager war das eigentlich?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2495.645,2497.241"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/896","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2497.241,2497.603"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/897","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In welchem Lager war das? In Landsberg?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2497.603,2499.004"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/898","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das war in dem Lager, Lager Eins am Ende war ich.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2499.004,2502.527"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/899","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aber Sie waren im Spital in Landsberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2502.527,2503.992"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/900","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, zuerst war ich in Holzhausen. Dort hat man mich sehr gut gepflegt. Und von Holzhausen nach Landsberg und von Landsberg nach Schwabing in München.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2503.992,2514.318"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/901","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo haben Sie Ihre Füße verloren?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2514.318,2503.992"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/902","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Unterschenkel, zwanzig (20) Zentimeter unter der Knie. Hier, hier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2503.992,2522.668"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/903","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Zwanzig (20) Zentimeter unter dem Knie. Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2522.668,2524.303"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/904","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das heißt Unterschenkel-Amputation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2524.303,2526.597"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/905","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2526.597,2527.054"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Beide sind weg, ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2527.054,2528.568"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2528.568,2529.196"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/908","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Und jetzt gehe ich ganz gut, trotzdem dass die Deutschen gesagt haben, dass ich nicht gehen werde können.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2529.196,2533.515"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/909","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was machen Sie jetzt an der Universität?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2533.515,2535.222"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/910","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ich studiere Pharmazie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2535.222,2536.807"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/911","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja. Und wie geht es hier?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2536.807,2539.28"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/912","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ich bin sehr zufrieden mit der Universität. Die Professoren sind sehr gut zu uns und sind so freundlich. Das Zusammenleben von den Professoren und Schülern ist viel—ist so gross, wirklich—man kann das an keiner einzigen Universität finden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2539.28,2551.151"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/913","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wie vertragen sich die Schüler?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2551.151,2552.828"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/914","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Sehr gut. Es ist interessant, dass man hat gesehen, man kann doch zusammen leben und wenn ein Mensch wie ein Mensch lebt, dann spielt die Nationalität keine Rolle. 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Ich habe ein Affidavit von Chicago bekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2567.12,2569.595"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/921","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ich bin von Chicago. Kann ich sie aufsuchen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2569.595,2571.531"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/922","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja. 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Der erste Name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2579.94,2581.441"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/930","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Charles Hellberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2581.441,2582.549"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/931","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2582.549,2583.038"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/932","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Charles Hellberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2583.038,2584.316"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/933","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Charles?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2584.316,2584.783"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/934","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Charles. 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Und wenn die UNRRA damals nicht mehr arbeitet, dann hab ich nichts...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2619.08,2625.345"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/953","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh, wir werden das durch die NIAS machen. Ich werde das selber arrangieren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2625.345,2628.516"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/954","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: [lacht etwas] Ja. Das hat man mir gesagt, dass die Quote ist sehr gross und ich kann nicht rüber kommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2628.516,2633.72"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/955","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm, und der Name ist Charles Helberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2633.72,2635.946"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/956","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2635.946,2636.114"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/957","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und sie wissen nicht was sein Geschäft ist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2636.114,2636.942"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/958","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2636.942,2637.404"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/959","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was ist er von Ihnen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2637.404,2638.747"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/960","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Das ist der Onkel von meiner Mutter. Er interessiert sich sehr und er will von Anfang mir helfen, aber er hat keine Möglichkeiten...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2638.747,2645.212"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/961","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was meinen Sie er hat keine Möglichkeiten—kein Geld.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2645.212,2646.727"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/962","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, es ist nicht das Geld. Aber was kann er mir helfen [murmelt—sehr leise—unverständlich].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2646.727,2650.817"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/963","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie haben was?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2650.817,2651.943"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/964","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Hier ich keine...aber ich habe UNRRA Verpflegung und...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2651.943,2655.514"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/965","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Schickt er Ihnen Pakete?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2655.514,2656.789"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/966","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein, weil er kann nichts schicken. Er hat mir ein paar Mal geschickt, aber ich habe nichts bekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2656.789,2665.404"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/967","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm. Also ist das alles, was Sie uns sagen wollen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2665.404,2667.428"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/968","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Ja, das ist alles was ich sagen will...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2667.428,2668.594"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/969","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was wollen Sie amerikanischen Studenten sagen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2668.594,2670.468"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/970","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Also [lacht] was will ich amerikanischen Studenten sagen? Will ich sagen, wir haben sehr viel gelernt. Wir sind doch nicht pessimistisch. Das heißt wir haben kennengelernt, dass es gibt nur...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2670.468,2678.529"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/971","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2678.529,2678.816"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/972","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: . . . nur eine Wirklichkeit. Die Wirklichkeit des Bösen, aber trotzdem sind wir nicht Pessimisten. Wir haben noch kennengelernt, dass die Möglichkeit der menschlichen Seele ist sehr gross. Man hat...man kann sehr viel aushalten [lacht etwas]. Und das sagt ein Mensch, der auf zwei (2) Prothesen herum lauft. 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Und Sie wissen nicht, was seine Beschäftigung ist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2709.094,2711.16"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/980","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Roma Tcharnabroda: Nein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2711.16,2711.657"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/981","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This concludes the most interesting spool, number 155 at the UNRRA University. [Pause. Knocking sound.] These knocks are the knocks of the artificial legs of the young girl, who just talked to me, and she is now leaving the room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2711.657,2744.111"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["German [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/transcript/8096/annotation/982","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/008/096/original/roma-tcharnabroda_de.vtt?1583169976","format":"text/vtt","language":"de"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/008/096/original/roma-tcharnabroda_de.vtt?1583169976"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["annotations_tcharnabrodaR [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/983","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Munich\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Munich\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=5.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/984","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/unrrauniversitymunich\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/unrrauniversitymunich\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=5.0,41.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/985","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kielce\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kielce\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=71.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/986","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kielce\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kielce\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=72.0,73.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/987","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003epogrom: \u003c/b\u003eA form of riot or mob violence directed against a particular group, whether ethnic, religious, or other, and characterized by the killing and destruction of their homes, businesses, and religious centers. 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In the Nazi system these could include transit, labor, concentration, and death camps.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2499.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003elager: \u003c/b\u003eGerman military term for camp or encampment. In the Nazi system these could include transit, labor, concentration, and death camps.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2499.0,2502.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Landsberg-am-Lech\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Landsberg-am-Lech\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2502.0,2503.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Landsberg-am-Lech\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Landsberg-am-Lech\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2503.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Munich\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Munich\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2503.0,2514.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Chicago\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Chicago\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2567.0,2569.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Chicago\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Chicago\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2567.0,2569.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Chicago\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Chicago\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2569.0,2571.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eUNRRA: \u003c/b\u003eAcronym for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration. Established in 1943, its principal executive post was held by a representative of the United States, which supplied forty percent of its budget. Among its chief duties was the repatriation of displaced persons—when the war ended, UNRRA had to cope with the task of caring for millions of displaced persons and refugees.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2619.0,2625.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eUNRRA: \u003c/b\u003eAcronym for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration. Established in 1943, its principal executive post was held by a representative of the United States, which supplied forty percent of its budget. Among its chief duties was the repatriation of displaced persons—when the war ended, UNRRA had to cope with the task of caring for millions of displaced persons and refugees.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2651.0,2655.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144/annotation_set/1466/annotation/1170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e[Note. I saw the Helbergs in Chicago, but not as I promised, in two weeks. There were a number of subsequent interviews as heart rending as this one, and my written notes were very sketchy—I used the wires as a notebook. Only in about a year, working on this spool [preliminary listening] I came to the name Helberg. They happened to live about a block away, a family rated, perhaps with some exaggeration in the \"millionaire class.\" I had them over at the house. It possibly did some good for Roma. An attempt to get them interested in co-sponsoring this work did not arouse great enthusiasm. I did not see them again. Two reporters were at my house during their visit. Virginia Marmaduke from the Sun, and a reporter photographer from the Chicago Times (the papers then existed separately). For some reason the Helbergs at first resented the publicity. We never saw each other again. I understand Helberg was subsequently elected president of the Zionist organization of Chicago. —D.P.B.] [Sun Sept. 3, 1947] [Chicago Times, March 28, 1952.]\u003c/p\u003e\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/unrrauniversitymunich\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/unrrauniversitymunich\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17689/file/73144#t=2711.0,2744.119"}]}]}]}