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Now ... and what does that do now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=741.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7994/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eKarl Josephy:\u003c/strong\u003e Because we did not live together because of a certain shortage of apartments, it happened that on August 24, 1942 at 2.30 in the morning I was awakened by my wife who was accompanied by two inspectors of the gendarmerie. 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I received word in February, to report to one of those camps, a Groupement des Travailleurs Etrangers, and of course I picked a camp in close proximity to my wife because we intended to free my wife as soon as I had the freedom to make my living outside. 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Und was für Arbeiten haben Sie dort gemacht?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=287.905,291.171"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Wir haben Steine zertrümmert, wir haben große Blöcke Steine zertrümmert, die dazu dienten, einen Ballast für die, zur Errichtung der Bahnlinie, die zum Kongo herunterführen sollte, äh ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=291.171,304.568"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=304.568,305.173"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... zur - äh - und eben zur Errichtung der Bahnlinie dienen sollte die Noballa [?, word not clear] und Arbeiten vollführten bei 40 bis 60 Grad Hitze","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=305.173,313.668"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja bitte nennen Sie Wirkungen [?, word not clear] ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=313.668,315.785"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... vom Schatten war natürlich keine Rede ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=315.785,318.144"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=318.144,318.84"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... und mussten diese Arbeiten durchgeführt werden in einem Rekordtempo und unter - und unter Aufsicht der französischen Sergeanten [?, word not clear] ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=318.84,329.782"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja. Nun, und was hat man dafür bezahlt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=329.782,334.252"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Man hat dafür 1 Francs täglich bezahlt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=334.252,337.3"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=337.3,337.966"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ...und ist dieses Geld immer erst sehr spät angelangt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=337.966,340.833"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was hat man zu essen bekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=340.833,343.065"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Die Kost war nicht hinreichend für diese schwere Arbeit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=343.065,348.23"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: .... ja, äh, aber die haben das Essen besorgt, nicht wahr?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=348.23,352.464"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Das Essen wurde da durch das Arbeitslager, 5 km weit entfernt von dem, von dem ......","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=352.464,359.753"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... Bauplatz weg ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=359.753,360.473"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... 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Nun, wie lange hat das gedauert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=487.317,492.18"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich habe mich genau aufgehalten in Guarta (?), das heißt der Ausgangsstation für die Bahn, die zum Niger führen sollte, zum Kongo und zum Niger führen sollte, vom 21. Dezember 1940 bis zum 19. Juli 1941.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=492.18,511.589"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja. Wo war Ihre Frau?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=511.589,514.19"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich war zu diesem Moment noch nicht verheiratet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=514.19,516.042"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie waren noch nicht verheiratet. Was ist dann passiert, wie Sie mit der Arbeit fertig waren?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=516.042,520.76"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich wurde am 19. Juli demobilisiert, nachdem man mir endlich nach langem Warten die Papiere geschickt hatte und ich mir die erforderlichen 10000 Francs ausgeborgt habe ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=520.76,532.252"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Von wo, von wem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=532.252,533.431"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Die hat mir ein Kollege geborgt um mir die Rückkehr nach Frankreich zu ermöglichen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=533.431,538.179"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieviel war der Francs damals wert? 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Also dann hat Ihnen ein Freund das Geld geliehen und Sie haben die Kaution aufge [fraction, word not finished] ... haben Sie jemals die Kaution zurückbekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=580.084,588.159"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Diese Kaution war mehr ein Vorzeigegeld, das heißt im Moment wo ich die Kaution vorgelegt habe, hatte ich ja das Geld ja wieder in die Hand bekommen ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=588.159,596.061"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=596.061,596.303"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... und sofort restituiert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=596.303,597.785"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und Sie haben das bezahlt, naja ... Sie haben einfach das Geld nun gekriegt, um es zu zeigen ....","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=597.785,601.408"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... um es zu zeigen in der Buchhaltung.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=601.408,603.519"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah so. Und wohin sind Sie dann gegangen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=603.519,605.842"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich habe, nachdem ich in Frankreich keinen Menschen gehabt habe, aufs Geratewohl das Departement Gard als Wohnstätte angegeben ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=605.842,614.062"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... und wo ist 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Man wusste dass ich ein früherer Intellektueller bin, und hat mich demgemäß auch anständig behandelt, wenn ich auch schwer arbeiten musste ... [pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=659.765,672.134"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also weiter, nun was hat Ihnen denn passiert? 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Warnung, aus den Betten geholt, um uns, womöglich ohne dass es viel aufällt, sofort abzutransportieren, und leider wussten wir ja schon ungefähr, was das bedeuten konnte.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=795.957,807.24"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: How, äh, warum hat man gewusst dass sie Juden waren?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=807.24,809.895"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Das hat man gewusst, weil ja die Juden seinerzeit in Frankreich, das heißt, seit dem Vichy-Regime, gezwungen waren, eine Deklaration als Juden abzugeben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=809.895,818.605"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha. 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Die Lagerleitung war vollständig von Vichy abhängig ... Es waren darunter auch, eh, das heisst zur Mehrzahl sogar Menschen, die uns äusserst schwer behandelten, nicht wahr , und die keinerlei Ausnahmen für uns machen wollten und sich sehr wenig um den Gesundheitszustand der Menschen kümmerten ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=998.458,1016.815"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aber denn, dennoch haben sie etwas bezahlt irgend etwas ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1016.815,1020.717"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... ja, bis zu einem gewissen Ausmaß ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1020.717,1022.374"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... ja, nun - und wie lange waren sie dort und was hat dort passiert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1022.374,1027.364"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich - es haben sich dorten furchtbare Schreckensszenen abgespielt - speziell im Moment, wo man die Leute herausholte, wo man die Namen - aus den, aus ihren Lagern herausholte - wo man die Namen aufrief, die deportiert werden sollten ...Es gab Selbstmorde, es gab Leute die sich versteckten ... 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Ich habe also, ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1457.07,1461.449"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1461.449,1461.691"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... ich habe also im Februar den Bescheid bekommen, mich in eines dieser Lager zu begeben, in einem Groupement des Travailleurs Etrangers, und habe natürlich ein Lager ausgesucht, dass sich in der nächsten Nähe meiner Frau befand, weil wir die Absicht hatten, meine Frau zu befreien, im Moment wo ich selber soweit die Freiheit hatte, mein Leben draußen zu verdienen. Diese Möglichkeit war uns tatsächlich gegeben, nur war diese Möglichkeit meistens nur theoretisch ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1461.691,1490.85"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja –nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1490.85,1493.179"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich habe, ich bin also von dem Lager in Noyes in ein anderes Lager überführt worden, in das Groupement von Septfonds, Septfonds in Carnet Garonne. Das befand sich cirka 100 Kilometer von Noyes entfernt, also leider viel zu weit von meiner Frau, wo ich ursprünglich, wo ich sie doch ursprünglich besuchen wollte und meine Schritte unternehmen wollte, um sie zu befreien. In Septfonds selbst waren skandalöse Verhältnisse, man hat uns gar keine Freiheiten gelassen, wir mussten auch dort Steine klopfen ... von genau ... war unmöglich, wir hatten eh ... und wir waren allen möglichen Drangsalierungen eines ausgesprochen antisemitischen Chefs ausgesetzt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1493.179,1538.456"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Franzose?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1538.456,1539.545"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Franzose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1539.545,1540.386"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1540.386,1540.894"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich kann ihnen auch den Namen sagen. Nicht wahr. Dieser Mann wurde bestraft, nicht wahr, genauso wie der Lagerleiter von Noyes, nicht wahr, schwer bestraft wegen Kolla-, Kollaboration ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1540.894,1550.783"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was nennen sie schwer bestraft?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1550.783,1552.537"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Na ja, er hat ja, er ist zunächst selber interniert worden und wird wohl auch eine Körperstrafe bekommen haben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1552.537,1557.346"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah –nun. Resume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1557.346,1560.848"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: In der - in der - während des Aufenthaltes im Septfonds begannen nun die berühmten Deportationen von Noyes am ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1560.848,1568.62"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun, das, wo ihre Frau war ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1568.62,1570.556"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Nein, nicht wo meine Frau war, auch von dort wurde deportiert -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1570.556,1573.756"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1573.756,1573.901"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Die Deportationen setzten vom Moment, wo ich arretiert wurde, unausgesetzt fort ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1573.901,1579.103"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1579.103,1579.339"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Wir hatten nur einen schwachen Schutz durch unser Kind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1579.339,1582.055"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja –nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1582.055,1583.017"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Eine besonders schreckliche Zeit verlebte ich in Septfonds Ende Februar und Anfang März des Jahres 1943. Die Sache war zum Schluss so, dass von den circa 200 Lagerinsassen im Septfonds ganze 20 Mann übrig blieben. Man hat keine Familienväter geschont, man hat selber nicht Franzosen geschont, nicht Leute mit französischen Verwandten, hat gar keine Rücksichten mehr genommen ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1583.017,1608.188"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie, sind das Franzosen dort gewesen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1608.188,1611.001"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Es haben sich tatsächlich Leute vorgefunden, die französische Verwandte gehabt haben oder vorgegeben haben, Franzosen zu sein. Sie müssen nicht vergessen, dass es auch ein Speziallager in Septfonds gegeben hat, wo man verdächtige politische Elemente festgehalten hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1611.001,1625.481"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1625.481,1628.923"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Es hat sich also im Laufe von Februar und März das Lager von Septfonds infolge der ständigen Deportationen derart geleert, dass wir zum Schluss nur mehr 20 Leute übrig waren, und es ist wie ein Wunder, dass ich selbst darunter gewesen bin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1628.923,1642.526"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1642.526,1642.701"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich habe unter dieser Zeit eine demande gemacht, die meine Frau befreien zu lassen. Diese ‘demande’ wurde später im Papierkorb des Herrn Demoulin, Demoulin, des Herrn Lagerchefs vorgefunden, der mir ernsthaft ins Gesicht gesagt hat, dass er sein Möglichstes tun würde, und es sofort im Papierkorb, und die Überreste meiner demande sofort im Papierkorb geworfen ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1642.701,1662.843"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... geworfen ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1662.843,1663.17"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... geworfen hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1663.17,1664.464"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1664.464,1666.763"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... ähm, die Situation im, im Lager Septfonds wurde nach wie vor, wurde immer ärger, immer unhaltbarer , zum Schluss hatten wir in vollständiges Ausgangsverbot, weil sehr viele Evasionen vorkamen ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1666.763,1679.126"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... hmhm ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1679.126,1680.934"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Endlich haben wir durch, eh, ist eine Inspektion gekommen, die angefordert hat, Arbeiter im Holz als Waldarbeiter im Department Cantal und uns freigestellt hat, und uns freigestellt hat, uns dazu zu melden. Also die wenigen Leute, die von dem Lager noch übrigblieben, haben natürlich sofort alle verlangt, von dieser Hölle von Septfonds versetzt zu werden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1680.934,1704.741"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1704.741,1705.346"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Und so bin ich am 14. Juli 1943 nach Cantal übersiedelt, noch immer unter der Form eines groupement des travallieurs etrangers ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1705.346,1714.987"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was für eine Holzarbeit haben Sie denn verstanden?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1714.987,1717.467"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Holzarbeit haben wir gar keine verstanden, es war, wir warn alle nur Laien, wir waren alle nur Amateure, wenn Sie wollen, denn, kaum dass jemand von uns verstanden hat, eine Säge oder eine Axt richtig in die Hand zu nehmen. Die Arbeit ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1717.467,1729.951"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... kamen ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1729.951,1731.336"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1731.336,1731.79"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ...ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1731.79,1732.238"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Die Arbeit bestand darin, dass man Bäume fällen musste im Born,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1732.238,1736.526"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... aha ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1736.526,1736.647"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Die Bäume mussten gefällt werden und zugerichtet werden. Und das war natürlich schwere Arbeit, die aber verhältnismäßig gut bezahlt war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1736.647,1744.48"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh, sie haben für die Arbeit bezahlt bekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1744.48,1746.198"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ja, ich bin ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1746.198,1746.797"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1746.797,1746.972"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ja dieses Groupement war sehr anständig. Wir haben bezahlt bekommen nach denselben Tarifen wie französische Arbeiter ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1746.972,1753.112"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1753.112,1754.376"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Und wohnten zusammen in einem Baraquement. Wir waren nach der Arbeit vollständig freie Menschen. Wir erhielten auch Kleidung vom Groupement. 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Nun ja – nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1847.893,1850.246"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... eh ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1850.246,1850.482"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ... nun ... richten Sie sich hier zu meinem Gerät.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1850.482,1853.198"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1853.198,1853.525"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: ...nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1853.525,1856.059"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich, eh, habe, wie gesagt, meiner Frau Pakete geschickt und, eh, sofort Schritte unternommen, um sie befreien zu lassen, da es ja nunmehr einen Nachweis erbringen konnte, dass ich mein Leben verdiene und mit meinem Gehalt auch für meine Frau aufkommen könnte...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1856.059,1873.781"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1873.781,1874.446"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Diese, dieses Ansuchen habe ich meinem Chef von der, eh, von von dieser Holzabteilung vorgelegt. Er hat sich für sehr gut befunden, hat sie sofort weiter geleitet. Und nun hatte ich tatsächlich einige Hoffnung, dass meine Frau befreit werden würde.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1874.446,1890.877"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/894","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1890.877,1891.512"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/895","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Dies war auch tatsächlich der Fall, ich danke noch heute Gott dafür, denn es hat sich herausgestellt, dass 15 Tage nach meiner Befreiung sämtliche Personen, die in der Baracke und 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Und speziell die Juden taten ihr Möglichstes, sich zu verstecken, nicht wahr, und halten sich so gut sie konnten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1954.087,1965.391"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/906","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja – nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1965.391,1967.055"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/907","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Ich eh ich blieb also in dieser Fabrik, die sich nicht weit von meinem ursprünglichen Holzbetrieb befand. Noch bis zum 20. August – bis zum 20. April 1944. Das heißt noch etwas länger als zur die endgültige – nein ... Ich blieb dort bis zum 20. 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Sie war belgischer refugee. Und wurde so wie die meisten belgischen jüdischen refugees in ein Konzentrationslager gebracht, das ja an und für sich nicht so schlimm war wie die Deportationslager, wo aber auch die hygienischen Verhältnisse miserabel waren. 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Meine Frau ist seinerzeit von Österreich, wie sie mir erzählt hat, nach Belgien ausgewandert, ebenfalls geflüchtet","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2081.267,2088.707"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/923","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2088.707,2088.973"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/924","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: ... von Belgien nach Frankreich 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Nachdem wir viele Nächte noch im Wald verbracht haben und nachdem wir, eh, nachdem wir ständig in den letzten Monaten vor der Liberation unser Domizil wechseln mussten, um nicht der Miliz aufzufallen, die uns auf der Spur waren, und so haben wir endlich doch das, den Termin der Liberation erreicht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2137.068,2158.419"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/947","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Na warten Sie mal, das ist mir nicht klar 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Das war natürlich eine Notmaßnahme. Und nachdem ich so wenig wie mög-, möglich sprach, haben mich die Leute tatsächlich für einen Franzosen angesehen. Für einen Lothringer, wie es auf meinem Papier vermerkt war. 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Und das hat mir auch das Leben gerettet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2259.222,2269.226"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/977","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieso haben wann haben sie solch ein Papier aufge ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2269.226,2271.524"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/978","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Das hab ich mir von der Resistance verschafft, für die ich auch gearbeitet 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Paris, August the 23, 1946, Illinois Institute of Technology wire recording.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2344.49,2374.255"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/994","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Karl Josephy: Bon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=2374.255,2371.97"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["German [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/transcript/7993/annotation/995","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/007/993/original/karl-josephy_de.vtt?1583169679","format":"text/vtt","language":"de"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/007/993/original/karl-josephy_de.vtt?1583169679"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["josephy_annotations-EN [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169/annotation/996","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Paris\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Paris\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169/annotation/997","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Paris\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Paris\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=1.0,18.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169/annotation/998","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Vienna\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Vienna\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=28.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169/annotation/999","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Paris\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Paris\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=158.0,171.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169/annotation/1000","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Ghardaia\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Ghardaia\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083#t=254.0,274.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17628/file/73083/annotation_set/1169/annotation/1001","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eVichy Government: \u003c/b\u003eThe right-wing government of unoccupied France after the country's defeat by the Germans in June 1940, named after the spa town of Vichy, France, where the national assembly was based under Prime Minister Pétain until liberation in 1944. Vichy France was that part of France not occupied by German troops until November 1942. Authoritarian and collaborationist, the Vichy regime cooperated with the Germans even after they had moved to the unoccupied zone in November 1942. 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