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(Abstract)"," Friedrich Schlaefrig was a retired Viennese civil servant, sixty-four years of age when Hitler annexed their native Austria to the Third Reich in March 1938. Born in Mistelbach in Lower Austria, Schlaefrig was an architectural engineer by profession and a former ministerial counselor in the Austrian Railroad Ministry. As a former member of the Habsburg imperial bureaucracy, he enjoyed a comfortable pension and the respect of his community. In retirement he divided his time between an old hobby studying the acoustical properties of wooden instruments and service to the Jewish community as head of a local B'nai B'rith chapter. Schlaefrig describes initial Austrian Nazi measures against him and his associates, which were part of an anti-Jewish program that greatly impressed officials from Germany proper. He and his wife were able to send their daughter to England as a domestic servant at that time, but they themselves were unable to find a place of refuge before the Nazis banned emigration in October 1941. Friedrich Schlaefrig's status as a former Habsburg civil servant and a leading figure in the Vienna Jewish community helped determine that he and his wife would be sent to the \"old folks\" ghetto at Theresienstadt in occupied Czechoslovakia. Initially placed in the fortress at the edge of town and then moved into Theresienstadt proper, they participated in plucky efforts to make the hideously overcrowded facilities capable of supporting at least some of the prisoners. While his wife worked as a nurse in the infirmary, Schlaefrig volunteered for the camp's technical services, using his engineering skills to pipe clean water into the town. He is obviously proud of an achievement that doubtless saved thousands of lives. Was Schlaefrig one of the privileged Jews who survived by exploiting their prominent positions and contacts with the camp's Jewish leaders? He takes pains to distance himself from Jewish Council chairman Rabbi Benjamin Murmelstein and other camp notables, but Boder's probing of this point implies that he entertained some doubts on the matter. Indeed, later in the interview Schlaefrig reveals that on more than one occasion he was able to get his name removed from lists of prisoners scheduled for deportation to Polish death camps. That happened even when members of the important construction detail were losing their previous immunity to deportation. Moreover, Schlaefrig and his wife enjoyed a \"very lovely\" private apartment that went with his administrative position in the technical services department during the last months of the ghetto. On the other hand, there is no direct evidence that he was corrupted by power. Otherwise it seems unlikely that he would have been entrusted with important postliberation tasks on behalf of his former fellow captives. When interviewed at the Paris offices of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee in August 1946, Schlaefrig was awaiting a telephone call from Lisbon with information on his ship to South Africa. There he hoped to join his son, who had emigrated before the war. (Commentary from FRESH WOUNDS: EARLY NARRATIVES OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVAL by Donald L. Niewyk. Copyright (c) 1998 by the University of North Carolina Press. Used by permission of the publisher. www.uncpress.unc.edu)  (Commentary)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":[" World War, 1939-1945--Refugees (Topical)"," Holocaust, Jewish (1939-1945)--Personal narratives (Topical)"," World War, 1939-1945--Personal narratives, Jewish (Topical)"," Mistelbach (Austria) (Geographic)"," Vienna (Austria) (Geographic)"," Theresienstadt (Concentration camp) (Person Or Corporate Body)"," Terezín (Ústecký kraj, Czech Republic) (Geographic)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":[" Schlaefrig, Friedrich (Interviewee)"," Boder, David P. (David Pablo), 1886-1961 (Interviewer)"," Platt, Dagmar (Transcriber)"," Boder, David P. 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In retirement he divided his time between an old hobby studying the acoustical properties of wooden instruments and service to the Jewish community as head of a local B'nai B'rith chapter. Schlaefrig describes initial Austrian Nazi measures against him and his associates, which were part of an anti-Jewish program that greatly impressed officials from Germany proper. He and his wife were able to send their daughter to England as a domestic servant at that time, but they themselves were unable to find a place of refuge before the Nazis banned emigration in October 1941. Friedrich Schlaefrig's status as a former Habsburg civil servant and a leading figure in the Vienna Jewish community helped determine that he and his wife would be sent to the \"old folks\" ghetto at Theresienstadt in occupied Czechoslovakia. Initially placed in the fortress at the edge of town and then moved into Theresienstadt proper, they participated in plucky efforts to make the hideously overcrowded facilities capable of supporting at least some of the prisoners. While his wife worked as a nurse in the infirmary, Schlaefrig volunteered for the camp's technical services, using his engineering skills to pipe clean water into the town. He is obviously proud of an achievement that doubtless saved thousands of lives. Was Schlaefrig one of the privileged Jews who survived by exploiting their prominent positions and contacts with the camp's Jewish leaders? He takes pains to distance himself from Jewish Council chairman Rabbi Benjamin Murmelstein and other camp notables, but Boder's probing of this point implies that he entertained some doubts on the matter. Indeed, later in the interview Schlaefrig reveals that on more than one occasion he was able to get his name removed from lists of prisoners scheduled for deportation to Polish death camps. That happened even when members of the important construction detail were losing their previous immunity to deportation. Moreover, Schlaefrig and his wife enjoyed a \"very lovely\" private apartment that went with his administrative position in the technical services department during the last months of the ghetto. On the other hand, there is no direct evidence that he was corrupted by power. Otherwise it seems unlikely that he would have been entrusted with important postliberation tasks on behalf of his former fellow captives. When interviewed at the Paris offices of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee in August 1946, Schlaefrig was awaiting a telephone call from Lisbon with information on his ship to South Africa. There he hoped to join his son, who had emigrated before the war. (Commentary from FRESH WOUNDS: EARLY NARRATIVES OF HOLOCAUST SURVIVAL by Donald L. Niewyk. Copyright (c) 1998 by the University of North Carolina Press. 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The interviewee is Mr. Friedrich Schlaefrig, 71 years old. He is here with his wife planning to go to South Africa, and is expecting at this moment a telephone call from Lisbon for clearance on the ship. He graciously agreed to be interviewed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=27.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In German]. And so, Mr. Schlaefrig...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=58.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] May I speak English too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=59.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] Oh! 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See story of Max Feuer, Microcards Nos. 28, 29, Second Series 1953, pp. 787-954. —D.P.B.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=64.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And so, Mr. Schlaefrig will you give us your full name and where were you born?...Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=72.0,77.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e My name is Friedrich Schlaefrig and I was born in Mistelbach in Lower Austria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=77.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How old are you now, Mr. Schlaefrig?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=88.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I am now in my seventy-second year?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=90.0,93.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What is your profession?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=93.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I am an architect by profession and was a ‘Ministerial Counsellor’ in the Austrian Railroad Ministry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=94.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e When were you a ‘Ministerial Counsellor’, in...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=101.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I was [that]...until 1933.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=105.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...Now then, Mr. Schlaefrig, will you tell us then...don’t fear the details. It is better for us that we have a small sector of your story with all the details, than to have the whole story in general terms. And then, you still have time, we could possibly get together in the afternoon...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=108.0,134.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yes!, I am in the afternoon...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=134.0,135.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e I should like possibly to talk with your wife.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=135.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=137.0,138.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now then, where were you when the war started and how were things with you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=138.0,146.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e When the war started we lived in Vienna. I was...already before the war started, I got into an unpleasant situation, because I was at the Hitler invasion of Austria in March of 1938, the president of the B’nai B’rith Lodge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=146.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh! Now, please wait, Mr. Schlaefrig. Let us take it then chronologically. Let us count for you the beginning of the war from the time when the Nazis had taken the upper hand in Austria, the Anschluss, etc. That we will call for you, the time of the war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=181.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e All together...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=195.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=196.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=197.0,197.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Now then, you were...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=197.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I was at that time...I was in the year 1938 elected for the second time, president of the lodge ‘Eintracht’.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=199.0,207.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e It was called ‘Eintracht’?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=207.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e ‘Eintracht’ [Unity] in Vienna, the largest Viennese...Viennese B’nai B’rith Lodge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=210.0,213.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=213.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and then...the Jews of Austria, of course, have chosen the side of their Chancellor, of Schuschnik, because the Nazi propaganda threatened first of all the Jews of Austria.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=214.0,245.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=245.0,246.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e It is obvious that everything was being done in order to...preserve an independent Austria and to support the government to the extent of our strength. That had led to the circumstance, that, when Schuschnik was planning in Austria a plebescite on the question of the Anschluss with Germany, this plebescite, this decision of the people, which of course had to be prepared, had to be prepared financially as well, was supported [also] with the resources of the B’nai B’rith and other Jewish resources. 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[three words not clear] we were accused of that...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=360.0,362.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was it true?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=362.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . but not even remotely...they searched for our correspondence with Moscow, they searched all our archives, they incessantly inquired about our connections with New York, with the ‘Wise o Zion,’ and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=364.0,383.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes! We call them in English the ‘Elders of Zion’.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=383.0,387.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=387.0,388.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=388.0,388.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . we were after this interrogation, which lasted until about 3 o’clock in the morning, transferred to the police jail...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=388.0,398.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How did they treat you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=398.0,401.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course, there was no lack of personal, of physical mistreatments...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=401.0,407.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=407.0,408.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e We were beaten with those...with rubber truncheons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=408.0,412.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You personally, too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=412.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I, personally, too. We were thrown into those closed box-carriages [patrol wagons] like cattle, and driven to the police jail, where we...the night...spent the night. On the following morning, we were distributed in the...in the separate rooms, and placed like common offenders. In one of the cells...I personally was placed with six other arrested with me, in to a cell for serious criminals...which measured about three by three meters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=413.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where was you wife?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=459.0,461.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e My wife remained home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=461.0,463.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=463.0,464.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . remained comparatively unmolested during the time. All this time...for these weeks were full of night interrogations, we were regularly called for with that Green Henry [synonymous apparently with the ‘Black Maria’—the slang designation for a patrol wagon] with that closed box-carriage. We were taken to the main police station for night interrogations and in the morning we were returned home...to jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=464.0,497.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. Schlaefrig, how old were you then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=497.0,501.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I was at that time...63 years old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=501.0,509.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Now then...[a pause] and so you were interrogated every night. How long did that last?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=509.0,517.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That has...that has lasted two to three weeks...I shouldn’t say every night...but a large part...a large part of the nights were spent in night interrogations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=517.0,532.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, Mr. Schlaefrig, will you reproduce for us one of such interrogations as near as possible. What were you questioned about? What did you answer and so forth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=532.0,546.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The questions are to a large extent pointless, because, because a large...a large part of the questions were limited to personal viewpoints. Attempts were made to establish the political orientation of the individual, whether he was not in some way, in opposition, in opposition...in order to establish that the B’nai B’rith [?] represents a political, a communistic, or some other kind...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=546.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e American?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=584.0,584.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . of organization. Yes, American. At any rate, something opposing the present ruling regime, so that these people could be rendered politically or possibly even physically, harmless. They did not succeed from a single one of the apprehended belonging to the circles of the B’nai B’rith to extract any confirmation of these suspicions or accusations. They were compelled after a ‘shorter or longer’ time to release us. Of course was the unburdening [correction] the release...[Footnote 1: Here we have a definite Freudian slip of the tongue. In German the difference between “unburdening” and “releasing” consists only in one single letter in the middle of the word: “entlastung,” and “entlassung.” —D.P.B.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=584.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Could you engage lawyers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=629.0,631.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e My wife had endeavored to engage not a Jewish...a non-Jewish counsel. And that was successful. And a Nazi lawyer had succeeded, so that by the end of March, I was released from the arrest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=631.0,651.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So you were held from...when?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=651.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I think, all together, it lasted from two to three weeks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=654.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=657.0,658.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e By the end of March, at the beginning of April...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=658.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=659.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . I was home again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=660.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=660.0,661.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e These...the questioned...it was impossible...it was impossible against a single one of us to produce any positive...positive accusations. None were founded. We were then gradually released to go home. This time of [our] being home was, of course, hardly bearable, because one was not safe for a single night against searches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=661.0,692.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you any children, Mr. Schlaefrig?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=692.0,694.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. I have a son who, at that time, was already in South Africa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=694.0,699.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh. So you now are going to your son.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=699.0,701.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I am going to my son. 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My daughter lives presently in Canada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=717.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=720.0,721.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e At that time she was still with us in Vienna. She preferred then to leave Vienna and went as a domestic servant to England, where she was taken as a domestic into the home of an English baronet,...was readily engaged by the family of an English baronet...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=721.0,743.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So, they were able to bring people over who worked as domestics...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=743.0,748.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The English have fired the Aryan domestics from Germany and Austria[Footnote 2: This appears to have been first of all a security requirement, in view of the growing international tension.] and have frequently engaged Jewish...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=748.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Servants...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=758.0,758.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Jewish ser...’manpower’, first of all girls from Jewish homes, and accepted them in their households.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=758.0,764.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh. Now, what kind of education did your daughter possess?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=764.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e My daughter was...she had graduated from a Middle School[Gymnasium] in Arts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=766.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and she went as...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=770.0,772.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e She went as [he says it in English] ‘parlor maid’.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=772.0,774.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e ‘Parlor...parlor...’ Where is she now?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=774.0,778.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e She is now married in Canada, and is contemplating...I hope it will be possible in a short time, to live with us together in South Africa in Johannesburg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=778.0,788.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha! I shall later give you some regards to be transmitted to Johannesburg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=788.0,793.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e With pleasure!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=793.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now then. Have you seen here Dr. Weiler [?], the Rabbi from Johannesburg?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=794.0,798.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e No...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=798.0,799.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e He is here in the 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Now then, what happened then? 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Valuables were simply taken away, they were seized under assurance that these things could at anytime be reclaimed from the Gestapo. But in fact, it happened that a great deal of the jewelry, of every valuable, simply disappeared. It simply was taken; that in apartments where the owners failed to show voluntarily their possessions, everything was searched, all the leather...leather furniture coverings were cut, the upholstery searched in order to establish whether there were not concealed anywhere jewelry, pearls, diamonds, or valuables.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=827.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=887.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That happened in my house, to other parties [tenants?], while with me personally they contented themselves to take with them whatever they found in the strong-box, and some other valuables.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=889.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=900.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e This was a frightful time because one never knew when one would be arrested. One was repeatedly arrested. It happened to me three times, that I was arrested. However, twice I was released again in the same manner, and have lived in Vienna from the year nineteen hundred and...from the [advent] of Hitler, 1938, up to September, 1941. However, I was unable to retain my apartment. We were compelled to sell our buildings. In one of my buildings I had my apartment, and I had, of course, to give that up too. We were compelled to ‘retract’ into furnished rooms, more crowded and more crowded. 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However, we had to count on it, and indeed, we [were sent away] with a transport on the 8th of September, ’41; no ’42; excuse me, ’42...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1157.0,1169.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1169.0,1171.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e All the ’41 dates are ’42...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1171.0,1172.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e We shall correct that—’41 date is ’42.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1172.0,1174.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1174.0,1177.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, tell me, what had the Cultural Council to do with the deportation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1177.0,1180.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The Cultural Council had taken unto itself to select [the word is not clear, could also mean find those individually selected by the Gestapo. 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The Cultural Council had its whole...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1241.0,1245.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where was Dr. Friedman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1245.0,1246.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Dr. Friedman was in Vienna, and Stricker was also in Vienna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1246.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1252.0,1253.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Both...in Vienna. For a time they were imprisoned; were afterwards set free, but were under continuous surveillance by the Gestapo and were obliged weekly to present themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1253.0,1267.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Present themselves. 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You say you have presented yourself voluntarily? What was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1701.0,1705.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Because I was...I said, I...I believe...I believe to have rendered such services to Jewish public life, that I, at least, have the right to demand the privilege that I should not again have to spend five, or six or eight days, in a lager in which one is exposed to vermin and lice, and has to spend the time unable to sleep. 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Together with the others we crowded in, we dragged ourselves in. And in Theresienstadt we were received by the Gestapo and the Czech Gendarme. 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That is twelve thousand people. 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As he said before he is an engineer, architect, was in Government Service, was retired. He had in the middle ’30s a pension amounting to about six hundred marks, or about one thousand schillings; possibly the equivalent of about two hundred or two hundred fifty American dollars, on which he could live well. His, hm, besides being an engineer—from his retirement he returned to an old hobby...And that is the construction of violins and a theoretical study of acoustics of wooden instruments in general. 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He apparently searches for words of a ‘higher’ vocabulary level.] My wife reported immediately as a nurse for a hospital, and I have undertaken the ‘liberation’ of about one hundred of my comrades in transport, with whom we together were lodged in the so-called...in the so-called armory of the Border Riflemen. 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On both of the narrow sides was a small, double-window. Consequently the rooms were very dark. In each of these casemates were lodged ninety to one hundred men, and we, too, had to live in these casemates. We did not know that in this armory of the Border Riflemen was also housed a hospital, that next to our casemates were located casemates in which were kept typhus patients and ‘Ruhr’ patients.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2678.0,2734.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Ruhr...that is something like intestinal typhus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2734.0,2737.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Ruhr—is dysentery...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2737.0,2739.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2739.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Dysentery and typhus...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2740.0,2742.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2742.0,2743.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . And indeed, from the first few days there occurred cases of grave illness. From...From the...from the general inmates of the casemates every day died a few, and in the hospital where my wife rendered her services, it happened...it happened of course, daily that people...people deadly sick...[found] their end...ended there their lives. At this time we did everything to help the others. It was an extremely sad existence. At the beginning we had nothing to lay down on. The stone floors of the casemates...we covered with strawsacks which we later on [had begged for]...later obtained. 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Did you get them back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2814.0,2818.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e [correcting] bed rolls...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2818.0,2819.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . bed rolls...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2819.0,2820.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The bed rolls were given to us in...returned to us in Theresienstadt. 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There were mostly...mostly old people, rarely were there with the parents a son or a daughter. There were hardly any young people. And the old people were frequently in such a state, that they perished already during the first few weeks of such a regime. Beside,, after eight and fourteen days there were again selections, and a large part of my comrades were again sent away, to Polish lagers. 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There was no shortage in cultural life. Of course, during the first months...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3280.0,3291.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they have their instruments with them..., some instruments?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3291.0,3293.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e We had...During the early period there were no instruments whatsoever, And the cultural life came to develop itself only when the...when the whole management of Theresienstadt was steered into an organized course. All the time...it took the whole first year of my sojourn there. During the first year conditions had to be created so that people could live. We had no water system in Theresienstadt. When sixty-five thousand people are crowded together in such a small locality, and are dependent on well to obtain their water from wells, so it is obvious that, due to the communication between the various sections, a number of wells were contaminated in a short time with typhoid fever. That was the reason [??] that we had to close a number of wells, and had to undertake to extend the existing water pipe system. That was really a great piece of public works created under Jewish inventiveness and by Jewish labor. They expanded the water supply system, and have achieved [a condition] that we not only produced for the people good drinking water or, at least, not objectionable drinking water, but that also the toilet installations could be flushed with water, so that these unhygienic conditions were removed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3293.0,3390.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And the Germans have permitted it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3390.0,3392.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The Germans have permitted it, and we even obtained through them the material, because otherwise it would have been impossible in Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3392.0,3399.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3399.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Afterwards...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3402.0,3403.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you say that Dr. Friedman was in Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3403.0,3406.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Friedman and Stricker, both were in Theresienstadt. Friedman was...was the director of the financial department, that is,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3406.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e In Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3416.0,3416.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That is, of the ghetto. Afterwards it was not called anymore ‘Jewish Ghetto—Theresienstadt’, but Jewish self-government of Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3416.0,3423.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3423.0,3424.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And Friedman was the director of the financial department in Theresianstadt...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3424.0,3430.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3430.0,3431.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and handled that department. Stricker, too, was in the Council of the Elders. Both made an adjustment and worked very much...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3431.0,3442.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And what happened to them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3442.0,3443.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Friedman and Stricker were in the 1944...they were, together with their wives, assigned to a transport which went to Auschwitz, and to my knowledge, were there gas-killed. 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But during the final months of the Nazi rule, we had such gas chambers also in Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3464.0,3477.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3477.0,3477.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Gas chambers which, however, never came to be used.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3477.0,3484.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3484.0,3484.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e It is being said, that the last leader of the Gestapo in Theresienstadt—it is being said -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3484.0,3492.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3492.0,3492.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I don’t know, I don’t know whether it is really true [?]—it is being said that it was the last leader of Theresienstadt himself, who revealed to the Red Cross that it was intended also to install gas chambers in Theresienstadt, and proceed with gas-killings, and that he pleaded that, for this salvation of the Jews of Theresienstadt, he, be permitted a free departure for Switzerland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3492.0,3530.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that done?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3530.0,3530.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I don’t know whether that was done. Whether that man got out or not, I don’t...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3530.0,3536.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What was his name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3536.0,3537.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e His name was Rahm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3537.0,3538.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Rahm. Did he belong to the Storm troops?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3538.0,3541.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e He was an SS, or Superior Storm leader, Rahm...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3541.0,3545.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3545.0,3546.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e As far Is I know, a Viennese.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3546.0,3547.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha...now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3547.0,3549.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Returning to my personal fate...in two months...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3549.0,3557.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that is what we want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3557.0,3558.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . the armory of the Border Riflemen was in two months abandoned because of the need of a thorough disinfection, due to being infested with lice and other vermin. And we were distributed into other dwellings. We ourselves, were assigned to a so-called block building. Those are the one-time private dwellings in Theresienstadt where we, my wife and twelve or fourteen other women, I and eleven other men, occupied one room, in which we were housed the whole winter of ’42 and ’43. In view of the urgency to keep all rooms in strict darkness against air attack, and the severe penalities that threatened for infractions against the black-out rules, it was impossible for the inhabitants of such rooms to maintain a supply of fresh air. The nights, therefor, were painful. I, for example, one night had not enough air to breath. I spent the whole night until morning without sleep, and I was glad when an inhabitant of the room had to go to a certain place and consequently, open the door so that a bit of fresh air could penetrate through the hallway...[he uses a special term]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3558.0,3649.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What did you call it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3649.0,3649.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The exit,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3649.0,3653.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3653.0,3654.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . the stairway to the first floor [corresponds to second floor in U.S.A.], because my room was at the first floor, the room of my wife on the ground floor [?]. We then...afterwards...in the spring of 1945, the inhabitants of Theresienstadt were...were screened. The Gestapo made a classification, and took note of prominent individuals. And these prominent individuals were granted somewhat better living conditions. So that the people who were put in the class of the prominent were given usually a room for two, so that a family of husband and wife obtained a room for two, and could live for themselves, also a better...a better...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3654.0,3707.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e maintenance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3707.0,3708.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . maintenance. But the large [majority]...there were not too many, there were about one hundred and fifty...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3708.0,3715.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where you among them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3715.0,3716.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . two hundred prominent persons. No, I was not counted in [?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3716.0,3720.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You were not among them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3720.0,3721.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I was not among the prominent. Among the prominent were Murmurstein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3721.0,3727.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e The Murmurstein who was in Vienna?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3727.0,3729.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Murmurstein was among the prominent. A few of his people of the Cultural Council, whom he brought with him...they were included among the prominent due to his influence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3729.0,3744.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How did it happen that Murmurstein was deported at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3744.0,3746.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that I don’t know. ‘One nice day’ the Gestapo sent him away with his devotees [?] and his followers [?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3746.0,3755.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3755.0,3755.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I don’t know the reasons. And so, there were not too many of these prominent [individuals], there were about one hundred and fifty to about two hundred. The large masses...it did not change much the fate of the large masses of other prisoners. The prominent were also...the prominent were also, to some extent, protected against the fate of further deportation to the Polish lagers...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3755.0,3783.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now then. Friedman was not among the ‘prominent’, and...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3783.0,3786.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Friedman...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3786.0,3787.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and Stricker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3787.0,3788.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . Friedman...yes, Friedman and Stricker were also among the ‘prominent’, but lived for themselves in a house in which otherwise lived not only the prominent. Friedman and Stricker were under the ‘prominent’.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3788.0,3803.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And still they were afterwards sent away?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3803.0,3805.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e They were sent away in spite of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3805.0,3807.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You were not among the ‘prominent’?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3807.0,3808.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I was not among the ‘prominent’ and also, I too, was put into the transports, but twice, one must say due to the play of fate, or God’s help","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3808.0,3819.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e will...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3819.0,3820.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . will, I was counted out again from the transports.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3820.0,3824.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now let us continue, now then...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3824.0,3826.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3826.0,3826.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Return now to your personal story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3826.0,3830.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I have...I have in November...in November, 1942, I have presented myself at the disposal of the technical services, and worked in the technical services. I have mentioned already, that we had to build up the water...the water supply, to make the existing water installation serviceable for the needs of the present large population, to lay new water lines through all the streets, to work on the installation of large tubes. We had to do not only that, we had to put the houses into such conditions that they would fit better sanitary requirements. And that kept us very busy. We also had to take care of the circumstance, that since we had to occupy the attics of the buildings because the [regular] floors did not offer enough space to house [all] the people...we had to look out for fire hazards, to fight the fire hazards...We had to form among the Jews a fire brigade. The Gestapo supplied us with a motor pump and two other pumps, and so there was established a real fire brigade under a fire chief, and we...we had also...we had also to organize a fire police, which had always to inspect so that...so that the dwellings be, from a standpoint of fire [safety], beyond reproach. We had to create a procedure of fire fighting, and that kept us busy for a few months. We had to proceed with an immense number of other technical tasks which are contingent upon the management of such a mass of buildings. Besides—and that, of course- occupied greatly the technical service—the Gestapo with its...with its contingent, with the whole personnel of the Gestapo, placed a great emphasis [on the requirement] that their quarters be maintained under most perfect conditions. There always had to be built something, they always had some demands, nothing was good enough for them, because the ‘gentlemen’ from the Gestapo lived in Theresienstadt in their own dwellings, in their own buildings—that was a special section of the city which was separated for the Gestapo alone, the large park outlays, which had the beautiful, the modern...the best buildings of Theresienstadt; there had to be installed marvelous accommodations for the passtime of the Gestapo—cafes, restaurants, a cinema theatre, a magnificent one; clubrooms—all that had to be created by us, and that took a large part of the efforts of the construction service, which had to do the job. 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One was glad not to have anything to do with them. Unfortunately, it came to that, that when people somehow would get careless...the chauffeurs of the Gestapo drove their tractor, their automobiles in the most inconsiderate manner, and there were quite a few cases where people were run over because they were unable to get out of the way in time. 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That was blocked off from the Jews. The year ’44 stood under the ‘sign’ of beautification of the city. We had repeated visits by foreign representatives of the press,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4284.0,4302.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e For example...there were not many foreigners who were not involved in the war...Sweden, Switzerland,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4302.0,4307.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, obviously these were only the ones who still had their press representatives in Germany.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4307.0,4312.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4312.0,4313.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And it was customary not to give any answers except to that what the Gestapo would ask. One could not answer at all the questions which the representatives of the press happened to ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4313.0,4332.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Could the representatives of the press see the people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4332.0,4335.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. The representatives of the press have seen the people, but of course, they were shown only ‘that’, they were led only to such places, that route [of the tour] was determined beforehand, according to a most definite red line and they distributed to the press...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4335.0,4352.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What kind of a red line, there was a line drawn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4352.0,4353.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e On the map...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4353.0,4353.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e On..., Yes, on the map...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4353.0,4355.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . a red line, and they followed that route, and all the dwellings which were included in the plan of the tour had to ‘shine in their glory’ [had to be ‘spic ‘n ‘ span’]; 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The large trunks were simply kept under lock, and every week so and so many hundreds, so and so many thousands of trunks were emptied by working women of the ghetto, [the things] were sorted-out; and all the underwear, all clothing or other gear that was found in the trunks, was stored in one of the armories, the so-called ‘ware house’ [?] armory. In this warehouse armory was deposited all...all the property and belongings of...of the Jewish inmates of the ghetto. 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There were in readiness, without exaggeration, hundreds of thousands of pieces of underwear of any kind. Not only was there in that armory the baggage...there was in that warehouse armory not only the baggage of the inmates of the Theresienstadt                     Ghetto which was, so to speak, snatched [on the sly] from them...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4530.0,4573.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4573.0,4574.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . as one said, ‘inspected and sorted-out’, but from all parts of Germany, the baggage taken away from the Jews was sent to Theresienstadt, and there it was packaged, sorted-out in order to be sent out all over the country, to various cities, for the people who were bombed-out and suffered a shortage of underwear and clothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4574.0,4616.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4616.0,4617.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e It was an immense storehouse of clothing, underwear, shoes, of objects of necessity of any kind. 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They had there...one was the manager, the others were employees in the store—Jews and Jewesses were there, the salesmen and saleswomen. And then, in order to complete the picture of a community, steps were taken toward the organization of a social life. They created a cafe. On the premises of the cafe were given concerts. On orders of the Gestapo the ghetto was compelled to organize a Jewish orchestra. There were found enough musicians, the instruments were obtained, and concerts were given in the cafe hall. Within the landscapes of the park which were laid out on the grounds in order to embellish the city, was erected an orchestra pavilion, where concerts were given nightly, which by the way, were not bad at all...where the Jewish musicians did very well...very well indeed. Also...all activities directed toward an agreeable leisure time for the workers and the old people, and so arrangements were made for lectures, there were formed committees for the utilization of the leisure time, lecture societies, language courses were given, and were given scientific lectures in all possible fields, in the technological field, in the medical field, in the religious field. There was a quite active life [interest] in all these fields. Stage plays were given, the actors got together. In the attics stages were erected, arrangements made for the audiences, and so a...a quite active spiritual life got slowly, and slowly in swing. That was in the year ’44, and by that time the life of the Jews in Theresienstadt, as seen from the surface, has become quite tolerable [?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4651.0,4820.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So, in most cases, men and women were housed together...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4820.0,4822.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e However, one may...only very few were housed together. They were separated, men and women. [This apparently does not include married couples, See page 29 of this interview] That would have been immaterial. What made the stay at Theresienstadt so terrible was the anxiety about where one may find himself between today and tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4822.0,4844.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e People were sent away?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4844.0,4846.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Every week transports were sent away, with the exception of a short spell during Christmas time and Easter time. With the exception of these two periods, there were always transports sent to Poland; from the various regions of Germany and Czechoslovakia [Spool ends in middle of the sentence. Continuation on Spool 69 which had to be reproduced anew from the ‘carbon wire’ original. —D.P.B.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4846.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"NOTE\n[The audio for Spool 69\u0026mdash;the final spool from the Schlaefrig interview\u0026mdash;is currently unavailable. 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Nobody knew whether he would be put in one of the near transports. 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Eventually the Gestapo itself, designated certain people for the next transport; people who had committed, in the judgment of the Gestapo, and kind of offence, who had some black mark, who had done something not to the liking of the Gestapo. These [people] were assigned to the next transport and they would then depart as ordered [?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, according to what kind of criterion did they act?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e In fact, there was no criterion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e People were composing lists...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, for a time the criterion was adhered to, that the first Czechoslovakian transports, the so-call Construction...the so-called Construction detail [Aufbau Kommando]...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . designated with the letter AK...that these were exempt from all transports [deportations], that they considered themselves secure, and would surely remain in Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Czechoslovakian Jews?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Czechoslovakian Jews, who had arrived with the first construction details, who, so to speak, have dedicated [inaugurated] Theresienstadt...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and had taken care of the first installations. And this criterion was indeed adhered to until the autumn of 1944. Only since the autumn of...of 1944 these construction...the Jews who had arrived with the construction detail were being deported to Poland, and this...this distinction was not made anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e They did not consider age...[one word not clear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e For a certain period of time...the over-aged were sent to Poland...In early...in the early period; for instance, take my transport-all people who were over seventy-five years old were ‘simply’ taken, transported further to Poland, where they probably perished, or were simply gas-killed within the shortest time. In the case of other transports, certain age groups were taken according to another principle. Say...up to sixty-five for example...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Over...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . up to sixty...[there were given different instructions]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . the young ones...from below up to sixty...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh...Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . from below up to sixty. It was simply ordered that those over sixty, or over sixty-five, shall not be taken into the transport [Footnote 4: It is possible that these transports were drafted labor.]. Then also this criterion was abandoned. Things used to change according to changes in instructions from Berlin or according to the instructions of the Gestapo, or the particular Gestapo Commander who would issue the orders. These...against such deportatonns there was no protection, and it was most fortunate for the poor people in Theresienstadt that almost up to the end, they were completely ignorant of what would happen to these transports.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . where...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e It was said that they are simply being transferred to another lager, and will live in the other lagers, not any worse than they had lived in Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh...it was not known what happened [?] to them...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e It was not known that the people were going to their death. That was not known in Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/570","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e In Theresienstadt conditions improved during the last two years, also due to the fact that people were permitted to receive packages from relatives and acquaintances. The Czechs could receive every month one package, they were issued a stamp to that effect...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e The Czech Jews...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The Czech Jews...and later on also the German and Austrian Jews could receive packages, although not of such a large size [good quality?]. But by that time, the Foreign Organization had come to life and started sending to the Jews of Theresienstadt small packages from Portugal, as well as some packages from Denmark and Swede, without names [addresses]...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Only in general...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e There were already packages with specific names. However, soon a drawback became noticeable in that the Gestapo, and that the Gestapo appropriated from these packages whatever they pleased to...that later was organized a Jewish postal service, but the personnel [?] of this postal service was not entirely beyond reproach; that the packages arrived frequently in a ransacked condition, so that the recipients did not really receive much. Nevertheless, these packages saved many people from a death of starvation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now how could they be sent? Have, for instance, people abroad known about your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e My family...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . that you were in Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. My family has...had known through...through an ‘information’ of the Red Cross. You see?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . through an ‘information’ of the Red Cross. They knew in Vienna that we were deported to Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Which [?] Red Cross.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The International Red Cross...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . acted as intermediary of ‘information’ and it was also possible through the International Red Cross to communicate with one’s relatives abroad. Of course, it took about three-quarters of a year until they received the communications. It took a very long time for the communications to be transmitted. These packages have saved the life of many people...And the food provisions in Theresienstadt were such, that in the morning one got a weak broth of chicory drips, a black broth, which for certain period of time was sweetened—as long as there was sugar—and later was unsweetened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you not get any saccharin?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e No...saccharin was not issued at all. But when...when those who worked were remunerated, they who were working were given sugar...small sugar boxes, and when the mortality became rampant, small rations of sugar and small rations of fat were issued also to the non-working [inmates]; so that the non-working would receive twenty grams of fat per week...twenty grams of fat per week...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . per day?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . sugar? 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Not very much [?] but it was, of course, something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was that distributed free, or did one have to buy it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That was...no, that was distributed...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/594","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [word not clear]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/595","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That was the ration. This [quantity] was, in general, steadily maintained. On the other hand, the bread ration...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, let us skip that. This is known from the [general] descriptions, from the archives, etc.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That is how it was [?].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, how did you fair personally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e [as if recalling] In the year...the year nineteen hundred...forty...four, in the spring of 1944, I and my wife were nearly at the limit of our strength. My wife worked then in a...in a war shop; there was in Theresienstadt a shop which was called the mica splitting shop [he then translates the term into English] ‘Glimmer’, that is mica.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Mica...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Mica...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e This mica had to be split very thinly...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, with a knife...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . with a thin...to split it with a knife so thinly, so that it could be used for purpose of insulation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...in telephones...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . in telephones, radios, and the like. And there were from twelve to fifteen hundred women occupied in this war shop. These women had to produce a certain quota, and were compelled to reach that quota. Those who would not attain it, they were assigned eventual [?] deportation, or they were made to catch up. They were given longer hours. There were...the work proceeded in two shifts. One shift started in the morning, from six o’clock until—I believe—two o’clock in the day...[he figures] six and six, Yes!, until two o’clock; and the second shift was from two...half-past two until eleven o’clock at night. And in this mica-splittery my wife has been working. I worked in the technical service and due to the shortage in nutrition we became so depleted that we could barely drag along. For me the...the walking of one flight up to...to my office in the armory, in the [word not clear] armory had become almost impossible. I then [his speech becomes unclear] was lying for weeks in bed, completely devoid of strength. Heart symptoms appeared, and in such circumstances the only thing that the physicians could prescribe was to tell one in confidence, if it is impossible to give you nourishment, you should save the vitality [?] of the body, by providing the body with rest. And so, I was lying in bed. At this time, one of our woman-cousins who was with us in Theresienstadt, was...was sent away with a transport to Auschwitz. But this cousin had, fortunately, connections abroad, and through these foreign...foreign connections she had received from Portugal, from Denmark and Sweden, mercy packages [love packages]. When she departed she told us...told my wife, ‘See Fanny, I would not like that the packages which should arrive here, should get lost, that the Gestapo simply should take them, or other people to whom they don’t belong. I am leaving here for you an endorsement, so you should get the packages. Take the packages, unfortunately you cannot forward them to me...’","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did she know already where she was going?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e She knew only...only that she was going to Birkenau. 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But the packages which our cousin...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Transferred...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Not transferred, but left behind with us, have kept us afloat during the next few months. They returned us to a condition; the little bit of fat, sugar and cheese, and what else we got—has literally saved us from a hunger death.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you apportion that? How come one was not tempted to eat all of it up in a few days?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that one did not...because one knew that one shouldn’t. One has so...one was so thrifty with the rations, with a cheese or sausage...I know that I had saved a sausage, a little piece of bloodsausage, Danish bloodsausage, eating only in little pieces from May until October...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now where could you keep it, did it not spoil?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e What would spoil, what would be perishable had to be eaten. 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The cheese would get hard, and was eaten hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And what there was otherwise, a little...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Coffee? [??]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . condensed milk; as to coffee, I don’t remember whether we got it. But I believe we got some condensed milk. 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There were potatoes, there was bread—and [so] we had something to eat. And so we pulled through the worst period. In...in the fall...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Potatoes...where could you boil the potatoes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e We had...in the dwellings there was a little stove. In every room there was a stove and in this stove we made fire, and wood...we gathered wood, or wood cuttings [scraps], purchased or searched for, in some way it was gathered together. Coal—that was stolen wherever it was possible to steal it. In Theresienstadt stealing was the ‘order of the day’. Yes, yes, I say it frankly...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...naturally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Stealing was the ‘order of the day’ [or in the day’s work]. And wherever...whenever something was unobtainable...one appropriated whatever one could appropriate in order to get the room a bit warm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did the inmates steal from each other as well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Unfortunately, that too. There happened also thefts among comrades, misdeeds [?], but that is just such a thing...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was there not a tendency to share with the others what one would receive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Unfortunately, no. I must say, frankly, that the solidarity among the Jews left a lot to desire. Because I know...I know that people had received very much, especially the Czech Jews, and that what they would not use, they used to sell for dear money, in order to obtain other things which they could use. Unfortunately, there was no such solidarity that one would give the other. Everyone, fearfully, endeavored—I should say, of course—with a few exceptions; unfortunately, I know none—everybody endeavored, anxiously, to use for himself whatever he would get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . a bit louder, Now then...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And so, came the autumn of 1944. There came about very great transports. These were the largest transports, which...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Were they coming or leaving?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/637","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e No, which were leaving. When Theresien...when it was said that Theresienstadt was to be completely evacuated during the next few months. All the people were to go to Poland. In fact, during these...in the...in the summer and autumn months, the population of Theresienstadt was reduced to twenty-four thousand, and [afterwards] to eighteen thousand. To so few, from a peak of sixty-five thousand down to eighteen thousand. All the others went to Poland, and with them also went a large part of those people who believed themselves safe, due to their belonging to the construction commando [detail] due to their special status. They sent away the [word not clear]. From the technical service an exorbitant number of engineers went to Poland. By that time, I received a different assignment in the technical service; I have undertaken the management of a...a...a...a...a quadrant, that is a ‘quarter’ of the city, and I had my own office with adjoining small service apartment, with my shops nearby—carpenter shop, locksmith [machine] shop, installation [electrical, plumbing] shops. And that gave me the advantage, that in the winter of 1944, from the late autumn of 1944, I was able to live together with my wife. I had then a small, very lovely, service apartment, which my predecessor had fixed up. He went to Poland...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/638","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e He was deported...he belonged to AK [construction detail], and it did not protect him...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/639","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e No!...He was...[word not clear], it did not protect him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/640","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/641","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And we...and we lived in this apartment up to the liberation by the Russians. This period...was a very disquieting period...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/642","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Which period?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The period between...between December’44, and the liberation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e When was the liberation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The liberation took place at the end of April and the beginning of May, ’44 [he, of course, means ’45].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e For about four months...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, four months. These four months were very alarming [?]. The Gestapo, due to the foreign...the efforts of the foreign...the efforts from abroad appeared to be prevailed upon to send abroad a part of the Theresienstadt Jews. And so a ‘Swiss’ transport was organized. In February, 1945, twelve hundred people were selected who were sent to Switzerland by the efforts of the International Red Cross. These twelve hundred people had actually reached Switzerland. There were...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How were they selected?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e These twelve hundred people were...one could register. Now...of course, far more than twelve hundred registered. Three thousand or four thousand registered. Some people deliberately did not register, because they feared...afraid that the transport still may not go to Switzerland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e These registrants were then, according to registration...according to the numbers...the numbers...The order of their registration, called before the Gestapo. One was brought before them and the commander of the [Gestapo] asked his question, and decided [then] who of the people was to go to Switzerland and who was not. Unfortunately, were...my wife and I were rejected, because I possibly appeared suspicious to the man of the Gestapo. He asked a few questions, ‘Where were you? What are you? An architect? Where about were you? In Vienna? You were—as it said on my passport—ministerial councellor in retirement? Where were you then a ministerial councellor?—In the ministry of railroads.’","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e ‘You may go [that is all]’","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e We were not...not permitted to deport. I think they picked people who were not dangerous, who possibly could not do much harm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Now then...this one transport was to be followed by several other transports. These other transports, to which were to be assigned the eligible people from those who had registered, did however, not materialize, and for the simple reason that the Red Cross...that the Red Cross had sent a representative to Theresienstadt for [word not clear—means possibly ‘control’] At that...that time there were people who were obscurely talking about gas-killings, and it was also obscurely talked about, in Theresienstadt also the installations have been assembled, and that things will soon come to a head, so that also in Theresienstadt gas-killings will take place. It happened [??] that the technical service did get ready certain premises, which could serve this purpose. We had to construct doors in places where we could not exactly imagine for what purpose they were installed. The doors were padded [with weather strips] as if for cold storage rooms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e It was definitely thinkable that these premises which we built, could be made use of for gas-killing purposes. But the Red Cross sent in April a representative to Theresienstadt. This Monsieur Durant [?]...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That was then a month before the liberation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e A month before liberation there arrived a representative to Theresienstadt, and the alarming rumors which circulated among the population of Theresienstadt, and the anxious rumors were now countered that...that...that the management...the management of Theresienstadt...the Jewish management had taken a turn...a new turn, that Monsieur Durant is here and that the population of Theresienstadt be not alarmed; nothing would happen in Theresienstadt that could be to the detriment of the inmates...the inmates, since the Red Cross had its observer [present] and he would...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/662","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And the Gestapo permitted it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . yes, the Gestapo permitted it...he would keep his eyes on Theresienstadt and will return...he had his regular station [office] in Prague and the rumors, the anxieties lingered on. On the 21st of April, this Monsieur Durant definitely moved to Theresienstatt, posters were posted that for sure, nothing will happen that could cause the people...the people alarm, because Monsieur Durant is here, add remains here, and nothing will happen that...that in someway might appear disgraceful [?]. That happened the 21st of April and indeed...there were battles already in the nearest vicinity of Theresienstadt. Up to this time we had seen nothing of the war, except for the large American flying squadrons which now and then flew over Theresienstadt, when it was not permitted to be on the streets, to look at...We knew, of course, that the Americans knew [were instructed] not to throw any bombs over Theresienstadt By that time the situation was well known, that the battles in...in the Rhineland were in the offing, and that the battles in the Rhineland...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/664","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you know that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That we learned through the Czech gendarmes. The...The Czech gendarmes.had radios...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . And the radios were so set up that the inmates could listen to the loudspeakers. And so we were practically in the course of events. Also sometimes people were getting out and smuggling in some newspapers...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and so one sketchily knew what was going on in the world. And by the end of April the battle contingents came nearer and nearer, the bombardments became more and more frequent, one already...one already in the...in the last days of April heard about shooting encounters in the nearest environs, and indeed in these days began to appear exorbitant numbers of refugees, Jews, from other lagers which the Gestapo had emptied, and with the retreat of German armies, had crowded them into Theresienstadt. That was already at the end of April. Unfortunately, all these [people] were brought half-dead, the lagers were evacuated, the people half-dead or altogether dead were loaded in wagons, and these wagons were brought to Theresienstadt. Lice ridden, starvation depleted, poor people, who brought with them epidemics, and brought spotted typhus. We had then unexpectedly [?], and epidemic of spotted typhus of such dimensions that eighty, ninety, a hundred and over a hundred people would die in one night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Also of the old [previous] inmates...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the inmates of Theresienstadt. We had a fabulous epidemic of spotted typhus. We then established quarantine, into which the sick were removed. The influx...The influx of inmates of the dissolved lagers...they were placed in quarantine. But it was impossible—too many arrived...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/672","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e It was impossible...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . It was impossible to hold such...such multitudes in the quarantine station, because they frequently would break out of the quarantine stations and so, of course, increase the danger of the spread of the epidemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e In spite of that the epidemic subsided by and by [slowly and slowly].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have physicians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e We had physicians; of course, also physicians were struck by the epidemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and died?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Physicians also died because they were struck by the epidemic of spotted typhus. But, however, the epidemic was slowly and slowly subdued and was extinguished. At the beginning of May the battles stretched as far as Theresienstadt, at the end of April and the beginning of May, and then we had in Theresienstadt...in Theresienstadt proper [incidents of] shootings. The retreating German troops, specifically among the SS, from their...the motorized troops have repeatedly fired into the city—at times they even threw hand grenades which have cost the life of several people, but these...these incidents were soon over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And the representative of the Red Cross was there all the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The representative of the Red Cross was present. At the end of April, Russian troops actually entered Theresienstadt, received with joy by all inmates. And the Russians furnished us immediately with food supplies for [all] Theresienstadt.—[Here is a bad noise on the wire. This comes from a motor, which off and on operated in the adjoining room, a shop of some kind.]—They saw how starved we were, and that the starvation was our main disease. They set order in the quarantine, they did not let anybody out, they did not let anybody in, but they supplied them with food. And thanks...thanks to the Russian...the Russian food supply the people regained their strength comparatively fast. Each one got [word not clear], we even got meat, we were supplied with food...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/682","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was it mostly canned stuff?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/683","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e That was fresh butter, fresh meat; meat was procured from all...from all the possible sources.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/684","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably form Germany.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e From Czechoslovakia, from Germany. Beef was delivered, pigs were delivered and...and slaughtered, and care was taken that the population, at last, gets something to eat. The Russians, in general, took good care of us, but it was difficult to make ourselves understood with them. Of course, only through interpreters. A few inmates of Theresienstadt spoke Russian and we had our interpreters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...Now were there no Russian Jews among the Russian troops?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, there were also Russian Jews. A Russian captain—a Jew, was in my...in my armory. The one who had immediate contact with him, who directly transmitted his orders, a very charming Russian. Fortunately, I could make myself understood with him through one of my...my technicians...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did he understand Yiddish...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Nu...he did not know Yiddish either...Through one of my technicians, who spoke Russian, who was the translater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/690","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now tell me, how did the Germans depart from Theresienstadt? Did you know the day of when they finally had departed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/691","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The Germans...the Germans just disappeared from Theresienstadt, all without a peep. We just didn’t know how they got away. One day there were no more SS men in sight...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And the Russians were there...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e The Russians were here and how it happened...The Russians were present, Murmurstein was locked up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And a few other, too—they were put behind lock and bolt. The Russians, of course, continued with the maintenance of order, they set up another management. A good friend of mine from Vienna [?], the counsellor [antiquated honorary title], Dr. Klang [?? possibly Klein], took over the direction of the council of elders; that is, the direction of the former ghetto. And another good friend of mine, engineer Vogel...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Another [there was a noisy interruption again]...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Another good friend of mine, engineer Vogel, I believe from Prague, stood by me in the management and we alternated. Now we got busy to register the various Jews according to their various nationalities, according to their particular desires, and to keep the records, since we did not want that this whole system [body of people] just fall apart. It would have been completely impossible. First of all were registered those Jews who wanted to go to Germany, then were registered the Jews who wanted to go to Austria. Those who wanted to go to Czechoslovakia were separated, and departed immediately in all possible conveyances, in autos, in carriages, in automobiles of all kinds, to their home towns. But the exodus, the return to Germany the Austrian Jews—they had to wait until the conclusion of the Armistice [last sentence not clear]. And so after the conclusion of the armistice we got busy every night [?] with the registrations. And we registered the group of Austrian Jews. I had the twelve hundred or thirteen hundred Austrian Jews who remained out of the seventeen thousand who were sent to Theresienstadt. The contingent [?] of thirteen hundred were registered; and then after that was over, at the beginning of June, since my friend, Klang, was unable to leave because he was in charge of the management of the ghetto, I journeyed to Vienna with a few [word not clear] and two other gentlemen whom I took with me...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e By train or auto?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e By train. The railroad communication, however [?], did not yet function competely. We traveled to Bratislava, and from there we reached Vienna by auto and on foot. 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These, I found again in Vienna, and had still a few other people of the Cultural Council present...These people I found, and with them I negotiated. I told them: ‘Here, you have this list of thirteen hundred people or twelve hundred, who want to return. I shall now negotiate with the government about the railroad trains, so that we could transport them, and I shall negotiate with the burgomaster so that the buildings be reinstated to the Jewish community, in which the homes for the aged were located; because a large part consisted of old people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e [a few words not clear] and then I came to and understanding [?] with the burgomaster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e That was a new burgomaster?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/705","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that was Mr. Wohlbekannt [the name is not clear; may also mean ‘I knew him well’, ‘he was well known to me’], who was a social-democrat . He was now burgomaster of Vienna, and he readily assured me that the [Jewish] community shall get back its buildings. And the formalities [?] were completed, and the community got its buildings back; and the government arranged that we were given two railroad trains from Theresienstadt to Vienna, in order to return to Vienna these twelve or thirteen hundred people. And that was done. I, myself, spent about fourteen days in Vienna [the spool becomes indistinct] until things were settled [??], and then the management of the Jews [??] in Vienna consented [promised] that I should not have to return with my wife to Vienna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/706","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Your wife did not return with you to Vienna?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e No...So that after completion of my mission I returned again to Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And from there...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/709","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e And from there was assembled a so-called foreign transport. That was for the Jews who did not want to return to their homeland, neither to Germany nor Austria,—they could register for a foreign transport. And this transport, which was under the auspices of...of—I don’t know whether of the Red Cross or the ‘Joint’ [JDC]—proceeded to Buchenwald, to Bavaria. I mean, the UNNRA took us over then [??]...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, how did you come to Paris?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFriedrich Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . And then we arrived in Paris, and now we are waiting, already three months, until...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] [wire apparently was running out] This concludes Spool 69, the interview with Mr. Schlaefrig, Friedrich Schlaefrig from Vienna. An Illinois Institute of Technology Wire Recording, in Paris, August 8, [correction] August 23, 1946.[Note 1: It is a puzzle to me why I consistently confused the date of that day, recording several times August 8 instead of August 23. \u0026mdash;D.P.B.] [Note 2: I don't recall whether I stopped Mr. Schlaefrig so that a few turns of wire remained for his wife, or whether I spliced on this additional portion of wire. Both notes August 19, 1954, at my home in Los Angeles. \u0026mdash;D.P.B.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Mrs. Schlaefrig, now you say a few words, Do you want me to see your daughter in Windsor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFanny Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e I ask you very kindly if you could talk to my daughter...[she apparently weeps] My daughter...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Say something to you daughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/75641/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eFanny Schlaefrig:\u003c/strong\u003e Dear Mieze. We are now [??] in Paris, and are expecting to get the visa to South Africa, and we hope that we shall see each other there real soon..., since you, too, are coming over...[pause] I send you these greetings through Dr. Boder from Chicago. [Note 3: This is one of the few cases when I was able to keep my word. I found the daughter of the Schlaefrigs in Windsor during the meeting of the America Psychological Association in Detroit, 1947. She expected to leave for South Africa. She listened to a portion of the recordings. The part covered by her mother did not reproduce very well. \u0026mdash;D.P.B.] [Note 4: The pitch of the voices in this reproduction spool changes due to technical reasons. One should be able to construct in the future, a reproducing and listening unit in which the speed of the motor could be changed without affecting the electronic units. \u0026mdash;D.P.B.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.0,4864.11244"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["German transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Sie sprechen ganz einfach und richten Sie Ihre Stimme ungefähr in diese Richtung, so—in jede Richtung, nur nicht ganz weg, nicht wahr!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=0.392,13.33"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja, das sehe ich schon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=13.33,14.271"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [unverständlich]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=14.271,27.838"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] Paris, August 19, 1946, at the Offices of the American Joint Distribution Committee. The interviewee is Mr. Friedrich Schläfrig, 71 years old. He is here with his wife planning to go to South Africa and is expecting at this moment a telephone call from Lisbon for clearance on the ship. He graciously agreed to be interviewed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=27.838,58.086"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Also, Herr Schläfrig,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=58.086,59.148"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: [In English] May I speak English too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=59.148,61.877"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] Oh! He says he may speak English...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=61.877,64.32"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Aber es geht besser auf deutsch, nicht wahr? Wir wollen das Beste nehmen, nicht wahr? Und ich frage sie dann und wann was in englisch. 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Und Sie haben ja noch Zeit, wir können vielleicht noch am Nachmittag zusammen kommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=108.664,134.913"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Oh ja. Ich bin noch da.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=134.913,135.631"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wir können vielleicht auch mit Ihrer Frau Gemahlin reden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=135.631,137.756"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=137.756,138.491"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also wo waren Sie als der Krieg anfang...anfing und wie ist es Ihnen gegangen? Gehen wir!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=138.491,146.13"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Wenn der Krieg anfing, lebten wir in Wien. Ich wurde am ersten...noch vor...noch bevor der Krieg angefangen hat, war ich deswegen in einer unangenehmen Situation, weil ich beim Einmarsch Hitler’s in Österreich im März neunzehn hundert...neunzehn hundert acht und dreißig (1938) Präsident der B’nai B’rith Loge Eintracht war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=146.13,181.269"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh! Warten Sie Mal, Herr Schläfrig, wollen wir das doch chronologisch machen. Wollen wir hier den Krieg nehmen von der Zeit, wo die Nazis übernahmen in Österreich und den Anschluss, und so weiter. Das wollen wir für Sie die Kriegszeit nennen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=181.269,195.721"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das Ganze.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=195.721,197.284"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja. Nun? Sie waren, hm, hm...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=197.284,199.83"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich war damals, ich war im Jahre neunzehn hundert acht und dreißig (1938) zum zweiten (2.) 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Das hat dazu geführt, dass man zu der Zeit, wo Schuschnik eine Volksabstimmung in Österreich machen wollte über die Frage des Anschlusses an Deutschland. Dass man natürlich diese Volksabstimmung, diesen Volksentscheid, der ja vorbereitet werden musste, auch materiell vorbereitet werden musste mit den Mitteln der B’nai B’rith und mit anderen jüdischen Mitteln unterstützt hat. Ich persönlich war an diesen Dingen beteiligt und ich habe nicht gewusst, weil ich diese betreffende Zeitungen nicht gelesen habe, dass am Abend des Einmarsches, hm, Hitler’s mein Name...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=246.293,294.41"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=294.41,295.222"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: mit anderen Namen als der, der prominenter Juden, der die Regierung Hitler’s...die Regierung Schuschnik’s unterstützte, genannt war, dass meine Tätigkeit in einem langen Zeitungsartikel dargestellt war und ich also sodann—schon dann politisch ausgeliefert war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=295.222,318.527"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also wollen Sie mal fortsetzen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=318.527,321.074"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Folge davon war die, dass ich über Nacht dieses Abends, dass ich in dieser Nacht verhaftet wurde und mit einer ganzen Anzahl von Prominenten von B’nai B’rith einer,...einem politischen Verhör—einem Nachtverhör unterzogen wurde. Man hat unsere Verbindung mit kommunistischen Parteien—in erster Linie mit Moskau—vorgehalten bekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=321.074,357.497"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=357.497,360.309"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . man hat uns dessen beschuldigt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=360.309,362.481"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: War das wahr?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=362.481,364.262"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Also gar keine Idee! Man hat unsere Korrespondenzen mit Moskau gesucht, man hat unsere Archive durchsucht, man hat fortwährend nach Verbindungen mit New York und nach unseren Verbindungen mit den „Weisen von Zion“ geforscht und wir...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=364.262,383.887"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Man nennt das bei uns in englisch: „The Elders of Zion“.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=383.887,387.734"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=387.734,388.059"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=388.059,388.528"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . und wir sind—nachdem dieses Verhör bis zirka drei (3) Uhr morgens gedauert hat—sind wir in das Polizeigefängnis überführt worden...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=388.528,398.403"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie hat man Sie behandelt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=398.403,401.387"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat—es hat natürlich an persönlichen...an physischen Misshandlungen nicht gefehlt, wir sind...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=401.387,407.152"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=407.152,408.058"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: wir sind geschlagen worden mit diesen...mit Gummiknüppeln.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=408.058,412.448"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Auch Sie persönlich?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=412.448,413.635"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Auch ich persönlich. Man hat uns in diese geschlossenen Kastenwagen, wie Vieh hinein geworfen und ins Polizei Gefängnis überführt, wo wir die Nacht...wo wir die Nacht verbrachten. Am nächsten Tage wurden wir, hm, wurden wir in die einzelnen Zimmer verteilt und, hm, wie eben gewöhnliche Sträflinge untergebracht in einer Zelle untergebracht. Ich persönlich war mit sechs (6) anderen Mitgefangenen in einer Schwerverbrecherzelle untergebracht, die ungefähr ein Ausmaß von drei (3) auf drei (3) Meter hatte.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=413.635,459.623"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo war Ihre Frau Gemahlin noch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=459.623,461.186"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Meine Frau blieb zu Hause.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=461.186,463.436"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=463.436,464.249"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Blieb verhältnismäßig unbehelligt während dieser Zeit. Die ganze Zeit, die ganzen Wochen waren mit wiederholten Nachtverhören ausgefüllt, man hat uns immer nachts mit dem „Grünen Heinrich“, diesem geschlossenen Kastenwagen abgeholt, hat uns zur Polizeidirektion, hm, zu Nachtverhören gebracht und in der Früh hat man uns wieder nach Hause vom Gefängnis entlassen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=464.249,497.567"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Herr Schläfrig, wie alt waren sie da?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=497.567,501.958"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Damals war ich 63 Jahre alt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=501.958,509.536"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun. Und so wurden Sie jede Nacht verhört. Wie lange hat das gedauert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=509.536,517.598"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das hat...das hat zwei (2) bis drei (3) Wochen gedauert. Ich will nicht sagen jede Nacht, aber ein großer Teil, ein großer Teil diese Nächte ist mit Nachtverhören verbracht worden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=517.598,532.332"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also, Herr Schläfrig, wollen Sie uns eines von diesen Verhören, so nah wie möglich, repräsentieren. Was hat man Sie gefragt? Was haben Sie geantwortet und so weiter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=532.332,546.316"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Fragen, die Fragen sind deswegen ziemlich belanglos, weil ja ein großer Teil dieser Fragen sich auf persönliche Auffassungen beschränkt hat. Man hat versucht heraus zu bekommen, welche politische Einstellung der Einzelne hat, ob es sich nicht irgendwie in Widersprüche, in Widersprüche verwickelt, um doch heraus zu bekommen, dass eigentlich die B’nai B’rith eine politische, kommunistische oder ansonsten einen anrüchige Vereinigung sind...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=546.316,584.165"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Amerikanisch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=584.165,584.868"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . ja, amerikanisch, also jedenfalls was, was gegen das, hm, herrschende Regime gerichtet war und wo man die Leute glatt konnte dann politisch oder vielleicht auch physisch unschädlich machen. Es ist nicht gelungen von einem einzigen Verhafteten aus den Kreisen der B’nai B’rith irgend eine Bestätigung heraus zu bekommen, die diese Befürchtungen oder Vermutungen oder Beschuldigungen, hm, bekräftigen können. Man musste uns nach kürzerer oder längerer Zeit doch entlassen. Freilich war die Entlastung, die Entlassung...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=584.868,629.774"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Konnten Sie Advokaten engagieren?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=629.774,631.008"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Meine Frau hat sich bemüht nicht, hm, nicht...nicht jüdische Anwälte, einen nichtjüdischen Anwalt dafür zu gewinnen und das ist auch gelungen. Und ein nazistischer Anwalt hatte es erreicht, dass ich gegen Ende März aus der Haft entlassen wurde.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=631.008,651.555"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also Sie waren von wann...bis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=651.555,654.087"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Also ich denke zu sagen zwischen zwei (2) und drei (3) Wochen waren es.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=654.087,657.915"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=657.915,658.29"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Also Anfang April...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=658.29,659.789"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=659.789,660.258"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . war ich wieder zu Hause.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=660.258,660.898"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=660.898,661.383"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Diese...die Folgenden...man konnte gegen...man konnte gegen keinen Einzigen von uns irgendwelche positive...positive Anschuldigungen erheben. Keine waren begründet. Wir sind also in Intervallen nach Hause entlassen worden. Die Zeit allerdings, des Zu-Hause-Seins war insofern eine Schwer-Tragbare, weil man keine Nacht vor Haussuchungen sicher war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=661.383,692.559"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, haben Sie Kinder, Herr Schläfrig?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=692.559,694.355"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja, ich habe einen Sohn, der zu dieser Zeit schon in Südafrika war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=694.355,699.574"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/790","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh! Fahren Sie jetzt zu Ihrem Sohn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=699.574,701.856"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich fahre zu meinem Sohn, der seit dem Jahre sechs und dreißig (36) schon in Südafrika als Architekt arbeitet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=701.856,707.715"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Als Architekt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=707.715,708.45"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=708.45,708.887"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/794","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat er in Wien beendet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=708.887,710.043"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Er hat in Wien studiert, beendet und ist im Jahre sechs und dreißig (36) nach Südafrika ausgewandert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=710.043,716.684"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das ist Ihr einziges Kind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=716.684,717.528"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das ist mein Sohn. Meine Tochter lebt derzeit in Kanada.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=717.528,720.778"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=720.778,721.496"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die ist zu dieser Zeit mit uns in Wien noch gewesen, ist...hat es dann vorgezogen Wien zu verlassen und ist als...in häusliche Dienste nach England gegangen, wo sie als, als...wo sie im Hausdienst bei einem englischen Baron...wo sie in der Familie des englischen Baroness sehr (unverständlich—beide sprechen)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=721.496,743.403"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also die konnten Juden nehmen, die englischen Hausdienst leisten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=743.403,748.888"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/801","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Engländer haben die arischen Bediensteten aus Deutschland und Österreich entlassen und haben vielfach jüdische Be...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=748.888,758.057"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/802","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bedienstete.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=758.057,758.994"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/803","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . jüdische Kräfte also—Mädchen in erster Linie aus jüdischen Häusern in ihre Häuser aufgenommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=758.994,764.726"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/804","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also was für eine Bildung hat Ihre Tochter gehabt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=764.726,766.897"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Meine Tochter war...hat Mittelschule und Kunstgewerbe absolviert. 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Wo ist sie jetzt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=774.941,778.206"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Sie ist jetzt in Kanada verheiratet und denkt daran...ich hoffe, es wird in kurzer Zeit möglich sein, mit uns zusammen in Südafrika in Johannesburg zu leben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=778.206,788.19"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha. Ich werde Ihnen später welche Grüße übergeben müssen nach Johannesburg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=788.19,793.502"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Sehr gern!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=793.502,794.361"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also haben Sie den Dr. Weiler hier gesehen, den Rabbiner von 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Also wie war es dann? Sie sind nach Hause gekommen und da waren Haussuchen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=817.851,825.478"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Es waren viele Haussuchen, da hat man...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=825.478,827.665"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was haben sie gewollt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=827.665,827.665"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat nach Waffen gesucht und unter dem Vorwand der Waffensuche hat man eigentlich alles, das irgendwie nach der Möglichkeit eines Verstecks von Wertsachen ausgesehen hat, eben halt durchsucht. Es sind Wertsachen einfach mitgenommen worden, man hat sie beschlagnahmt unter dem, unter, unter der Mitteilung, dass die bei der, bei der Gestapo jederzeit angefordert werden können und man hat tatsächlich ist das, dass ein großer Teil des Schmuckes, alles was etwas Wertvolleres war, verschwunden ist, dass es einfach mitgenommen worden ist, dass man in Wohnungen, wo die Inhaber nicht freiwillig ihre, hm,...gezeigt haben, was sie besitzen, alles durchsucht haben, lederne , hm, gepolsterte und led...lederne Möbelüberzüge zerschnitten hat, die Polster durchsucht hat, um heraus zu bekommen, ob nicht irgendwo Schmuck, Perlen und Brillanten und Wertsachen verborgen sind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=827.665,887.43"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=887.43,889.069"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das ist in meinem Hause, bei anderen Parteien geschehen; bei mir selbst haben sich die Leute begnügt das mitzunehmen, was sie eben im Tresor gefunden haben und sonst an Wertsachen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=889.069,900.435"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=900.435,900.981"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: In dieser Zeit war es schrecklich, weil man nie wusste, wann man wieder verhaftet wird. Man ist ja wiederholt verhaftet worden. Es ist mir drei (3) Mal passiert, dass ich verhaftet worden bin. Allerdings bin ich auch...auch die übrigen zwei (2) Mal ebenso entlassen worden und habe ich Wien gelebt vom Jahre neunzehn hundert und..., hm, vom Einmarsch Hitler’s im Jahre neunzehn hundert acht und dreißig (1938) bis zum September neunzehn hundert ein und vierzig. Allerdings konnte ich meine Wohnung nicht behalten. Die Häuser mussten wir verkaufen, in einem meiner Häuser hatte ich die Wohnung, die musste ich natürlich auflassen. Wir mussten uns dann an, in...in möblierte Zimmer zurück ziehen, immer enger und immer enger. Ich bin während dieser drei (3) Jahre fünf (5) Mal übersiedelt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=900.981,965.143"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat man für die Häuser bezahlt, die Sie verkaufen mussten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=965.143,968.951"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Häuser sind bezahlt worden mit einem Bruchteil, etwas mit dem vierten (4.) oder fünften (5.) Teil ihres wahren Wertes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=968.951,978.02"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer hat die gekauft?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=978.02,981.346"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Häuser haben Leute gekauft, die von der Partei eine...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=981.346,985.704"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Eine Bescheinigung?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=985.704,989.015"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . Sanktion sozusagen haben mussten, dass sie um die Partei sich Verdienst gemacht haben, also wert sind jüdischen Besitz zu bekommen...zu billigem Geld.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=989.015,1001.511"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja und?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1001.511,1003.557"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: So sind die Häuser verkauft worden. Wir sind...wir haben, wir haben uns für eine Übersiedlung nach Südafrika vorbereitet gehabt bevor wir unsere Wohnung verließen. Leider ist aus dieser Übersiedlung nicht geworden, weil ich die Permit für Südafrika, trotz der Bemühungen meines Sohnes, der zu dieser Zeit noch nicht naturalisiert worden ist und noch nicht werden konnte. Auch meine Tochter konnte, hm, die nach Südafrika gehen wollte, konnte nicht. Wir haben dann versucht nach Australien auszuwandern, auch dort konnten wir den Permit nicht bekommen. Alle Auswanderungsversuche, die Versuche mit Hilfe der amerikanischen Logen, eine...ein, hm,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1003.557,1048.743"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ein Affidavit zu bekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1048.743,1050.492"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . ein Affidavit für, für Amerika zu bekommen, haben sich so lange hingezogen bis die Verhältnisse für die Ausreise nicht mehr möglich waren...bis in den Beginn des Jahres ein und vierzig. Das ist dann das ganze System der Einwanderung nach den USA geändert worden und ein neues System innoviert worden, dass den Wenigsten die Möglichkeit gab nach Amerika zu kommen, obwohl ich zu dieser Zeit bereits ein Affidavit hatte.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1050.492,1083.846"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ah hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1083.846,1086.673"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Wir mussten als, wir mussten da also noch versuchen—durch meine Verwandten in Amerika habe ich da versucht—nach Kuba zu gelangen...auch das, auch diese Möglichkeit konnte nicht realisiert und im August des Jahres ein und vierzig (41) wurden wir verständigt, dass wir mit unserer Deportation...also mit unserer Deportation...mit unserer Evakuierung aus Wien zu rechnen hätten...in den nächsten Wochen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1086.673,1117.889"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/844","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer hat Sie dazu verständigt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1117.889,1120.169"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/845","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Da hat mich die Kultusgemeinde verständigt...ich habe ja durch Jahre als Vorstand der Kultusgemeinde als gewähltes Mitglied angehört in Wien und habe eben meine Bekannten dort gehabt und die haben mich eben verständigt, hm, dass es, dass wir in den nächsten Wochen deportiert würden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1120.169,1137.995"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: War das deren Pflicht, oder Sie haben es Ihnen bloß sagen wollen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1137.995,1141.635"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nein,...ich habe es erfahren, net wahr, dass es mir kaum mehr möglich sein in Wien zu bleiben. Man hat nur gesagt, es werden alle Juden aus Wien deportiert, das hat sich als nicht richtig heraus gestellt, aber ich...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1141.635,1156.491"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/848","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Falsch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1156.491,1157.396"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/849","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . aber immerhin wir mussten damit rechnen. Tatsächlich sind wir mit einem Transport am achten (8.) September ein und vierzig (41) nach...nein zwei und vierzig (42), Verzeihung...das ist alles statt ein und vierzig (41)—zwei und vierzig (42), bitte. (beide sprechen)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1157.396,1169.469"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, wir werden das korrigieren...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1169.469,1174.999"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English]...forty-one (41) date is forty-two (42).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1174.999,1176.572"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1176.572,1177.045"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sagen Sie, was hat die Kultusgemeinde mit der Deportation zu tun gehabt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1177.045,1180.576"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Kultusgemeinde hat, hm, hm, es auf sich genommen, hm, die Leute auszuheben und bereitzustellen für den Transport. Man hat gedacht, ich weiß nicht, ob es richtig war, man hat gedacht, wenn die Juden es selbst machen, dann wird es in einer menschlicheren Form geschehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1180.576,1194.964"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1194.964,1196.307"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ansonsten würde es ja müssen die Gestapo selbst machen. Nun scheint die Gestapo keine Lust gehabt zu haben, das auf ihr Konto zu nehmen und hat es viel bequemer gefunden, die jüdischen, hm, die jüdischen Institutionen vorzuschieben und die Juden diese Aushebungen machen zu lassen. Tatsächlich hat die Kultusgemeinde ihr ganzes Personal in den Dienst dieser Aushebungen stellen müssen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1196.307,1234.432"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer war der Direktor der Kultusgemeinde?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1234.432,1237.182"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das war Löwenherz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1237.182,1238.275"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Dr. Löwenherz? Josef Löwenherz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1238.275,1239.259"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Dr. Löwenherz? Josef Löwenherz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1239.259,1240.993"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Josef Löwenherz, ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1240.993,1241.775"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und die Kultusgemeinde hat ihr ganzes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1241.775,1245.399"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo war der Dr. Friedmann gewesen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1245.399,1246.743"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Dr. Friedmann war in Wien und Stricker war auch in Wien.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1246.743,1252.086"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1252.086,1253.179"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Beide in Wien. Eine Zeitlang, hm, eingekerkert, sind dann auf freien Fuß gesetzt worden, waren aber unter ständiger Aufsicht der Gestapo und mussten sich wöchentlich melden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1253.179,1267.74"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Melden. Wer—was war der andere Name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1267.74,1270.443"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Friedmann und Stricker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1270.443,1271.381"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Stricker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1271.381,1272.037"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Stricker, der institutionstechnische, ehemalige Nationalrat und...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1272.037,1275.948"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1275.948,1276.443"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . und Vorstand der Kultusgemeinde. Stricker und Friedmann, beide befanden sich auf freiem Fuß, hatte eine Wohnung—eine ganz nette Wohnung in der Stadt , in der ich sie öfter besucht habe—standen aber unter Polizeiaufsicht. 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Und zwar mit ihren eigenen Kräften. Alle die Bediensteten von der Kultusgemeinde mussten sich auch dazu hergeben—mit etlichen Ausnahmen haben es die Meisten getan—ich bedauere es, dass ich das sagen muss—deswegen getan, weil sie...damit ihre—wie soll ich denn sagen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1331.484,1358.684"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ihre eigene Person?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1358.684,1360.027"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . ihre eigene Person verschont glaubten. Tatsächlich sind sie geschützt geblieben bis in die allerletzte Zeit...bis in den Winter zwei und vierzig(42), drei und vierzig (43) hinein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1360.027,1374.003"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/881","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also Sie wurden informiert, dass die Deportation kommt. Was haben dann getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1374.003,1377.621"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/882","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . ; dass die Deportation kommt. 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Haben das Notwendigste in unsere Koffer verpackt und haben uns für unsere Reise fertig gemacht. Sind dann tatsächlich am siebten (7.) oder achten (8.) September mit einem Transport von Wien nach Theresienstadt abgesendet worden. Es sind...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1379.709,1409.067"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie ist man gekommen? Und wie hat man Ihnen das wissen lassen? Was hat da passiert, ich will die menschliche Seite von der Sache haben, wie hat man Sie informiert darüber?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1409.067,1417.305"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Diese...dieser, dieser Transport hat sich verhältnismäßig menschlich vollzogen, weil ich dadurch, dass ich freiwillig eingerückt bin auf die erhaltene Verständigung...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1417.305,1428.099"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1428.099,1428.661"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat mich ja vorher, hm, ausgehoben gehabt...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1428.661,1433.239"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1433.239,1433.661"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Da sind sie ja schon vorher schon eingehoben worden und zwar in der Art, wie sie in Wien Gang und Gebe waren. 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Sie hatten natürlich nicht die Möglichkeit sich dort zu pflegen, es war unmenschlich...sie wurden zur Not verköstigt. 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Was war das?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1701.397,1705.788"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/942","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Weil man mich...ich habe, ich habe gesagt, ich, ich glaube mich soweit um die jüdische Öffentlichkeit verdient gemacht zu haben, dass ich zumindest die Vergünstigung für mich in Anspruch nehmen darf, dass ich nicht wieder fünf (5) oder sechs (6) oder acht (8) Tage in einem Lager, in dem man Ungeziefer und Läusen ausgesetzt ist und nicht schlafen kann, verbringen muss. Man möchte mich so hin...man möchte mich so einteilen, dass ich nicht mehr wie höchstens ein Nacht und einen Tag in dem Lager verbringe, um nicht mit allzu großer, allzu großen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1705.788,1745.833"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/943","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Schwierigkeiten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1745.833,1747.473"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/944","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . Schwierigkeiten hinauf zu kommen. Das war der Grund und darum hat man mir gesagt, sie müssen sich bereit halten für diesen und diesen Tag und sie rücken ein in dieses und dieses Heim und das habe ich auch getan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1747.473,1760.613"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/945","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun...und da sind Sie mit Ihrer Frau hin gekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1760.613,1763.769"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/946","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Da sind wir am...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1763.769,1765.003"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/947","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieviel Bagage haben Sie gehabt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1765.003,1766.471"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/948","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Wir hatten...wir hatten...eins (1), zwei (2), zwei (2) große Koffer, zwei (2) kleine Koffer und zwei (2) Bettrollen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1766.471,1780.33"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/949","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja...nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1780.33,1781.971"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/950","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat gehofft, dass wir diese Bagage auch wirklich hinauf bekommen werden. Man hat versichert, dass es nicht,...dass nichts weg genommen werden wird. Es hat sich anders heraus gestellt. Wir sind am 8. September...sind wir also verladen worden in einen Zug der vom Aspangbahnhof in Wien abgegangen ist und wir sind am neunten (9.) September über Prag in Theresienstadt angekommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1781.971,1810.079"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/951","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das waren bloß vier und zwanzig (24) Stunden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1810.079,1813.298"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/952","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das waren nicht einmal vier und zwanzig (24) Stunden","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1813.298,1815.235"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/953","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In was für einem Wagen hat man Sie transportiert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1815.235,1817.094"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/954","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat uns in einem normalem Dritte Klasse Zug...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1817.094,1820.547"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/955","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Passagierwagen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1820.547,1822.203"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/956","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Passagierwagen. Sehr eng, eng...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1822.203,1826.328"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/957","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1826.328,1826.766"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/958","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . aber wir konnten...wir konnten das...(unverständliches Murmeln)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1826.766,1829.204"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/959","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo ist Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1829.204,1830.688"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/960","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Theresienstadt ist etwa sechzig (60) Kilometer nördlich von Prag.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1830.688,1836.423"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/961","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha, das ist in der Tschechoslowakei?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1836.423,1838.376"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/962","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Zwischen...ja, Prag und der Sächsischen Grenze.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1838.376,1841.875"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/963","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha...ja, hat das nicht noch einen anderen Namen gehabt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1841.875,1845.765"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/964","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Theresienstadt deutsch, Teresin in...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1845.765,1849.999"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/965","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In böhmisch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1849.999,1850.577"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/966","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . in tschechisch. Nun in Theresienstadt wurden wir...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1850.577,1858.84"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/967","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also erzählen Sie mir einmal über die Ankunft in Theresienstadt, ja?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1858.84,1862.996"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/968","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Ankunft in Theresienstadt...war...sehr traurig. Wir wurden auswagoniert und mussten unser Handgepäck, also das was wir tragen konnten, selbst tragen. Die Großen, nachdem ja ein Mensch höchstens nur zwei (2) Gepäckstücke tragen kann, wurde der große Koffer oder die Bettrolle, die wurden auf...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1862.996,1894.805"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/969","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Camion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1894.805,1897.164"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/970","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Auf Wagen, auf Camion später in die Stadt hereingeführt. Die Bahnstation befindet sich ja ungefähr ½ Gehstunde von Theresienstadt entfernt. Es ist selbstverständlich, dass wir für diesen Weg, das es hauptsächlich alte Leute waren, länger brauchten als eine halbe ( ½ ) Stunde. Wir sind über fünf (5) Viertelstunden gegangen und wir haben keinen besonders schönen Anblick geboten...ein Anblick, den ja späterhin in den kommenden Jahren, fast, hm, zu wiederholten Malen in Theresienstadt gesehen haben. 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Sind in Theresienstadt dann...sind wir empfangen worden von der Gestapo und von tschechischer Gendarmerie. Man hat unser Gepäck durchsucht und all das weggenommen was verboten war.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1966.33,1990.391"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/973","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was war verboten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1990.391,1991.329"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/974","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Verboten war natürlich alles was nach Alkohol auch nur irgendwie gerochen hat, Cognac. Verboten war, hm,...Medikamente, verboten waren Bücher und Zeitungen, mein wunderbares englisches Wörterbuch ist mir als erstes Opfer (lacht etwas) weggenommen worden. Alles was irgend solcher Art war, ist genommen worden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=1991.329,2021.748"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/975","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Schmucksachen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2021.748,2023.123"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/976","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Schmucksachen durfte man ja überhaupt nicht mitnehmen. Schmucksachen und Geld—das ist einem schon in Wien gesagt worden—war verboten, man durfte höchstens einen Ehering tragen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2023.123,2032.869"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/977","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Einen Trauring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2032.869,2033.743"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/978","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Einen Trauring. Sonst durften wir keinerlei Schmucksachen oder Geld mitnehmen. Das Geld haben wir in Wien noch abgeliefert. Was wir an Mark, an Markgeld, Marknoten oder Kleingeld gehabt haben. In Theresienstadt wurden wir, leider Gottes, in die schlechteste Kaserne eingeteilt. 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Also Gräben von einer Tiefe von acht (8) bis zehn (10) Metern und einer Breite von dreißig (30) Metern mit konter (unverständlich), also mit entgegengesetzten Mauern an der Außenseite übergehend in die...in das Vorfeld. 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Dadurch, dass wir aber die ersten Monate in dieser Jägerkaserne verbracht haben, wo es...wo eine Trennung nicht möglich war, weil sie so gross war, dass man eine (unverständlich) nicht zu machen war, so dass Männlein und Weiblein nebeneinander zusammen untergebracht waren, war die Unterkunft...war die Trennung eine räumliche Trennung gar nicht möglich. Man hat ein...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2381.04,2409.639"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1014","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] [interrupting] This concludes Spool 67 of Mr. Schläfrig, from Vienna. We shall continue, I hope with another spool right after noon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2409.639,2424.385"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1015","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Herr Schläfrig, wollen Sie mit mir essen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2424.385,2428.026"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1016","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nein, ich danke schön, ich kann (starke Geräusche im Tonband—unverständlich)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2428.026,2433.525"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1017","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] Paris...Paris, August 23rd, 1946. This concludes the Spool...67. An Illinois Institute of Technology Wire recording.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2433.525,2447.213"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1018","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: This is Spool.... this is Spool...this is Spool 68. Mr. Friedrich Schläfer...Schläf...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2447.213,2471.956"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1019","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Schläfrig.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2471.956,2472.544"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1020","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . Schläfrig continues. We had lunch together and Mr. Schläfrig gave me some.... hm, some more of his background. As he said before he is an engineer, architect, was in Government Service, was retired. He had in the middle ’30s a pension amounting to about six hundred marks, or about one thousand schillings; possibly the equivalent of about two hundred or two hundred fifty American dollars, on which he could live well. His, hm, besides being an engineer—from his retirement he returned to an old hobby.... And that is the construction of violins and a theoretical study of acoustics of wooden instruments in general. As a matter of fact, he intends...he intends in Africa to do something in that line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2472.544,2526.427"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1021","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In German] Also Herr Schläfrig, Sie haben mir Theresienstadt beschrieben. Nun wollen wir wieder zum Persönlichen übergehen, denn nach all dem kann man ja die Beschreibung von Theresienstadt aus den Literaturen finden und wollen Sie wieder rüber gehen dazu was Ihnen persönlich passiert ist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2526.427,2544.691"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1022","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Vom Beginn unseres Theresienstädter Aufenthaltes waren wir beide, meine Frau und ich bemüht uns der Allgemeinheit nützlich zu erweisen, so wie wir es uns in Wien schon vorgenommen haben. Dem gerecht haben wir auch beide sofort unsere Position in Theresienstadt bezogen. Meine Frau meldete sich sofort als Hilfsschwester für ein Spital und ich habe die Betreuung von etwa hundert (100) meiner Transportgenossen übernommen mit denen wir zusammen in der sogenannten...in der sogenannten Grenzjägerkaserne einquartiert worden sind. Diese Grenzjägerkaserne war ein uraltes Gebäude, das nur Kasematten enthielt, das heißt gewölbte Räumlichkeiten, die mit Erdreich hoch überschüttet waren, zirka vier (4) bis fünf (5) Meter und über dem Erdreich waren ursprünglich die Artillerie Positionen des Werkes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2544.691,2656.807"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1023","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Das war in den.... in den Kasematten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2656.807,2658.557"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1024","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und in diesen...diesen Kasematten waren wir untergebracht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2658.557,2660.901"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1025","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie waren sozusagen unterirdisch.... unter der Erde...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2660.901,2665.463"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1026","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Untererdlich...ja man hat wohl gesehen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2665.463,2669.464"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1027","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2669.464,2669.948"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1028","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . das Mauerwerk, aber sie waren von oben...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2669.948,2672.308"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1029","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie mit einem Berg bedeckt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2672.308,2673.418"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1030","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . wie mit einem Berg, oben war Rasenfläche und...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2673.418,2676.168"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1031","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also waren da Fenster?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2676.168,2678.636"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1032","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Es waren schmale,...es waren schmale, sehr tiefe Räume, Räume die etwas fünf (5) bis sechs (6) Mater breit und gegen vierzig (40) Mater tief waren. An den beiden schmalen Seiten befand sich je ein Doppelfenster. Die Räume war infolgedessen sehr finster. In diesen Kasematten waren nun neunzig (90) bis hundert (100) Menschen in jeder untergebracht. Und in diesen Kasematten mussten auch wir hausen. Wir haben nicht gewusst, dass in dieser Grenzjägerkaserne gleichzeitig ein Spital untergebracht war, das sich neben unseren Kasematten befanden in denen Typhuskranke und Ruhrkranke untergebracht waren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2678.636,2734.796"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1033","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ruhr...ist das so etwas wie Magentyphus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2734.796,2737.749"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1034","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ruhr, das ist Dysenterie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2737.749,2739.295"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1035","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2739.295,2740.217"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1036","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Dysenterie und Typhus...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2740.217,2742.576"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1037","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2742.576,2743.357"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1038","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . und tatsächlich ereigneten sich schon in den ersten Tage schwere Erkrankungsfälle. Schon von den Insassen...von den Insassen der Kasematten starben jeden Tag Einige und in dem Spital, in dem meine Frau Dienst machte, war es selbstverständlich, dass jeden Tag Leute—dort todkrank—ihr Leben dort beschlossen haben. Wir haben in dieser Zeit alles getan, um den Anderen zu helfen. Das Dasein war ein äußerst Trauriges. In der ersten Zeit hatten wir gar nichts auf dem wir liegen konnten. Der Steinboden der Kasematten, den bedeckten wir mit Strohsäcken, die wir später...die wir später erhielten. Wir legten darauf unsere Kleidungsstücke und die mitbrachten Stücke Bettzeug und schafften uns für die Nacht eine notdürftige Liegestatt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2743.357,2814.911"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1039","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie hatten zwei (2) Rollbeten mit sich, haben Sie die nicht zurück bekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2814.911,2818.801"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1040","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Zwei (2) Bettrollen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2818.801,2819.332"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1041","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Bettrollen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2819.332,2820.019"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1042","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Bettrollen hatten wir in Theresienstadt bekommen. Sie waren wohl total durchnässt, sind aber wieder getrocknet und wir haben sie wieder in Verwendung genommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2820.019,2829.799"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1043","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Waren Männer und Frauen zusammen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2829.799,2831.268"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1044","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Männer und Frauen waren zusammen. Es lagen, waren zumeist...zumeist alte Leute, wenig Jugend unter ihnen, höchstens, wenn mit den Eltern irgend ein Sohn oder eine Tochter war. Es waren wenig, wenig jugendliche Leute. Und die alten Leute vielfach so, dass sie schon in den ersten Wochen unter den Lebensbedingungen dorten, zu Grunde gegangen sind. Ausserdem wurde nach acht und nach vierzehn Tage wieder eine Auslese gehalten und ein großer Teil meiner Pflegebefohlenen wurde wieder abgeschickt in polnische Lager. Ich habe sie nie wieder gesehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2831.268,2881.991"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1045","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Polnische Lager waren was...Treblinka?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2881.991,2883.897"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1046","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die polnischen Lager waren...ich weiß nicht wohin diese Leute gekommen sind...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2883.897,2887.678"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1047","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was für Lager waren das?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2887.678,2888.694"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1048","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das weiß niemand. Sie sind nach Polen hinauf gekommen, ob das Treblinka, ob das Auschwitz war, ob das andere Lager waren, niemand wusste wohin die Transporte hin gegangen sind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2888.694,2898.772"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1049","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja. Und man hat nie Briefe von denen bekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2898.772,2902.61"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat nie mehr Briefe von diesen Leuten bekommen. Die, die Insassen, die Insassen dieser Kasematten litten selbstverständlich sehr unter Ungeziefer und unter der Gefahr der Verlausung. Dadurch dass niemand sich echt auskleiden und umkleiden konnte, und dadurch, dass niemand sich richtig waschen konnte...das Waschen nahezu ein Ding der Unmöglichkeit war, haben die...hat die Verlausung zugenommen und da sind tatsächlich Leute in den Kasematten verlaust in ihrem eigenen Kot gestorben. Das Traurigste vom Traurigen des Theresienstädter Aufenthaltes sind diese Wochen in diesen Ruhr- und Typhus verseuchten Kasematten dieser Grenzjägerkaserne. Meine Frau hatte nach zwei Monaten einen Zusammenbruch erlitten, sie war den Anstrengungen der Nachtwache nicht gewachsen und musste diesen Dienst aufgeben und hat einen anderen Dienst übernommen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2902.61,2971.403"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was waren die Ärzte, Juden?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2971.403,2974.887"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Ärzte waren Juden und ich muss sagen, das Beste was man von Theresienstadt sagen kann, ist dass die jüdischen Ärzte wirklich gut waren, dass man gute Ärzte hatte und dass sie—nach Massgabe der Möglichkeit bemüht waren, den Menschen, den Menschen zu helfen. Freilich, es hat sehr bald an Medikamenten gemangelt und die Medikamente, die vorhanden waren, haben nicht ausgereicht für die große Zahl. Ich habe nach etwa zwei Monaten, habe ich die Grenzjägerkaserne mit meiner Frau verlassen. Die Grenzjägerkaserne...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=2974.887,3023.256"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun sagen Sie mir mal, ist Ihre Frau jeden Abend zu Ihnen in die Kaserne gekommen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3023.256,3027.802"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Meine Frau hat...in diesen Kasematten haben Männer und Frauen nebeneinander liegen können, geschlafen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3027.802,3033.745"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1055","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3033.745,3036.135"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1056","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . so gut es eben gegangen ist und da war eine Trennung der Geschlechter nicht vorgesehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3036.135,3040.775"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1057","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3040.775,3041.322"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1058","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Es haben in den Kasematten...haben eben achtzig (80) oder neunzig (90) Menschen in einer Kasematte geschlafen, Strohsack und Strohsack, Einer neben dem Anderen. Im Mittelgang in der Nacht wieder Andere, so dass man über die Strohsäcke steigen musste, wenn man hinaus gehen musste zur Latrine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3041.322,3058.829"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1059","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo war die Latrine?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3058.829,3060.126"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1060","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Latrine war am Ende der Kasematte in einem jämmerlichen Zustand, so dass einem gegraust hat...dass es wirklich ein Grauen war sie zu benützen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3060.126,3069.328"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1061","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und haben Frauen und Männer die selbe Latrine benützt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3069.328,3072.562"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1062","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nein, die Frauen hatten eine Klosett gehabt am anderen Ende des Gebäudes...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3072.562,3077.718"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1063","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3077.718,3078.39"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1064","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ein Klosett, das natürlich für die große Zahl von zwölf hundert (1200) Menschen, die in dieser Kaserne untergebracht waren, weitaus nicht gereicht hat, ein Klosett mit vier (4) oder fünf (5) Abteilen, so dass die Leute, die Frauen in Schlange gestanden sind, um...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3078.39,3088.639"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1065","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3088.639,3089.451"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1066","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . das Klosett benutzen zu können. Und Männer haben die Latrine am anderen Ende gehabt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3089.451,3098.763"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1067","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wie haben sich die Frauen umgezogen oder angekleidet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3098.763,3102.825"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1068","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Frauen mussten eben...da musste man irgend etwas vor hängen oder haben die Männer eben weg gesehen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3102.825,3109.105"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1069","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3109.105,3109.652"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1070","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich...es war eine besondere Wahrung...man hat sich an Vieles gewöhnt in diesen Verhältnissen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3109.652,3117.401"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1071","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3117.401,3118.011"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1072","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3118.011,3119.511"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1073","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was hat man mit den toten Leuten getan, die gestorben sind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3119.511,3122.901"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1074","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die sind in eine...in eine andere Kasematte zusammen gelegt worden. Die Leichen sind dann einen Tag oder zwei (2)Tage später abgeholt worden zur Beerdigung. Es waren in diesen Zeiten...waren durch diese Ruhr- und Typhus Epidemie, hat so viele Opfer gekostet, dass in einer Nacht zwei hundert zwanzig (220) und zwei hundert vierzig (240) Menschen gestorben sind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3122.901,3149.534"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1075","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wo, in den Kasematten oder?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3149.534,3151.565"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1076","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nein,...in Theresienstadt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3151.565,3153.471"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1077","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nein, ich meine sind sie im Spital gestorben oder in der Kasematte?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3153.471,3157.565"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1078","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nein, in den Kasematten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3157.565,3158.752"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1079","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In den Kasematten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3158.752,3159.643"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1080","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Spitäler konnte diese vielen Menschen gar nicht aufnehmen. Man ist...man ist so gelegen, dass man, dass Einer vom Anderen nicht wusste. Mein Nachbar...ist in der Nacht verschieden...in der Früh war er tot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3159.643,3173.236"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1081","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja,...aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3173.236,3175.861"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1082","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das...das Sterben war eine leichte Angelegenheit unter diesen Verhältnissen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3175.861,3180.282"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1083","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sagen Sie, hat man irgendwelche religiöse Befriedigung gehabt? Haben sie erlaubt, dass die Leute beten, eine Minje, eine Synagoge??","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3180.282,3189.953"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1084","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja...es ist in kurzer Zeit...in kurzer Zeit haben sich...haben sich die Möglichkeiten geboten, dass ganz regelrechte Gebetsstunden in Bethäusern und Synagogen abgehalten wurden. Es wurden Räumlichkeiten zu Synagogen umgewandelt und die Gebetsstunden normal eingehalten. Es hat immer Andacht gegeben während der ganzen Zeit und immer genügend viel Juden gegeben, die an den Andachten teilgenommen haben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3189.953,3222.811"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1085","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Erinnern Sie sich an welche Rabbiner in Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3222.811,3226.092"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1086","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja, ich erinnere mich an Dr. 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Natürlich in den ersten Monaten...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3280.55,3291.565"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1099","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Haben die Instrumente mit gehabt...hat es Instrumente gegeben?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3291.565,3293.768"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Wir hatten sehr wenig...in der ersten Zeit sind überhaupt keine Instrumente da gewesen und es hat sich...das kulturelle Leben hat sich erst entwickelt, wie die, hm, wie die ganze Verwaltung Theresienstadt’s in geregelte Bahnen geleitet worden ist. Das hat immerhin das ganze erste Jahr meines dortigen Aufenthaltes in Anspruch genommen. Denn im ersten Jahr mussten die Verhältnisse zumindestens so geschaffen werden, dass die Menschen leben konnten. Wir haben in Theresienstadt keine Wasserleitung gehabt. Wenn fünf und sechzig tausend (65,000) Menschen in so einen kleinen Ort gedrängt untergebracht werden und angewiesen sind auf die Brunnen, auf das Wasser, dann ist es naheliegend, dass bei der Kommunikation zwischen den Abteil (unverständlich), und der Brunnen sich in kurzer Zeit, hm, das Typhose Fieber einstellen musste. Und das ist auch der Fall gewesen, wir mussten viele der Brunnen sperren und mussten die vorhandene Wasserleitung ausbauen. Das war eigentlich eines der größten Werke, das die jüdischen Techniker mit den jüdischen Arbeitern geschaffen haben. Die haben das Wasserwerk ausgebaut und haben es so weit gebracht, dass wir endlich den Leuten nicht nur gutes Trinkwasser, na wenigstens hygienisch einwandfreies Trinkwasser, schaffen konnten, sondern dass wir auch die Klosettanlagen mit Wasserspülung versehen konnten, so dass diese unhygienischen Einrichtungen beseitigt worden sind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3293.768,3390.626"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und die Deutschen haben das erlaubt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3390.626,3392.001"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Deutschen haben das erlaubt und wir haben sogar Material durch sie bekommen, weil sonst wären die Verhältnisse in Theresienstadt einfach unhaltbar gewesen wären.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3392.001,3399.969"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3399.969,3402.344"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nachher...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3402.344,3403.906"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie sagten Dr. Friedmann war in Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3403.906,3406.202"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Friedmann und Stricker—beide waren in Theresienstadt. Friedmann war, war Leiter des finanziellen Dienstes, das ist...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3406.202,3416.201"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In Theresienstadt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3416.201,3416.685"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das ist...des Ghettos. Das heißt später hat man nicht mehr gesagt „Jüdisches Ghetto Theresienstadt“, sondern „ Jüdische Selbstverwaltung Theresienstadt“.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3416.685,3423.875"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3423.875,3424.732"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und Friedmann war Leiter des finanzielles Dienstes in Theresienstadt...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3424.732,3430.653"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3430.653,3431.309"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . und er hat diese Abteilung geführt. Und auch Stricker war unter den...war im Ältestenrat. Beide haben sich, haben sich eingesetzt und haben viel gearbeitet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3431.309,3442.839"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und was hat mit denen passiert?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3442.839,3443.995"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Friedmann und Stricker sind im Jahre 1944...sind sie mit ihren Frauen in einen Transport gekommen, der nach Auschwitz gegangen ist und sind, meines Wissens, dort verbrannt worden. Sie haben Tote...(Rest unverständliches Murmeln)","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3443.995,3460.994"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3460.994,3464.463"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Wir haben in Theresienstadt keine Gaskammern gehabt, aber wir haben solche Gaskammern in den letzten Monaten der Nazi Herrschaft auch in Theresienstadt errichtet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3464.463,3477.165"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3477.165,3477.946"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Gas Kammern, die ihrer Benützung aber niemals zugeführt worden sind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3477.946,3484.164"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3484.164,3484.648"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man spricht davon, dass der letzte Leiter der Gestapo in Theresienstadt, man spricht davon...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3484.648,3492.335"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3492.335,3492.944"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich weiß es nicht, ob es mehr ist als ein Geschwätz...man spricht davon, dass der letzte Leiter von Theresienstadt selbst es gewesen wäre, der, hm, der bekannt gegeben...der dem Roten Kreuz bekannt gegeben hätte, dass auch in Theresienstadt die Errichtung von Gaskammern und die Vergasung der Insassen beabsichtigt sei und dass er sich ausgebeten hätte, dass für diese Rettung der Theresienstädter Juden man ihm die freie, freie Ausreise nach der Schweiz ermöglichen solle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3492.944,3530.048"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hat man das getan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3530.048,3530.985"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ob man das getan hat, weiß ich nicht. Ober Mann hinaus gekommen ist oder nicht, weiß ich nicht...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3530.985,3536.282"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was war der Name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3536.282,3537.203"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Der Name war Rahm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3537.203,3538.749"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Rahm. Was war er...ein Sturmführer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3538.749,3541.217"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Er war ein SS Obersturmführer Rahm...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3541.217,3545.561"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3545.561,3546.046"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Meines Wissens ein Wiener.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3546.046,3547.874"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha, nun?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3547.874,3549.687"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Diese, hm, die Grenzjägerkaserne ist ja nach zwei (2) Monaten...um mein persönliches Schicksal weiter zu...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3549.687,3557.953"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja, das hätten wir gerne gehabt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3557.953,3558.812"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . zu ergänzen, ist nach zwei Monaten wegen der gänzlichen...wegen der Notwendigkeit der gänzlichen Desinfizierung gegen Verlausung und anderes Ungeziefer, geräumt worden. Und man hat die Insassen auf andere (unverständlich) verteilt. Wir selbst sind dann in ein sogenanntes Block Haus, das sind also die einstöckigen, privaten Wohngebäude in Theresienstadt, übersiedelt, wo wir, meine Frau und zwölf (12) oder vierzehn (14) andere Frauen und ich mit elf (11) anderen Männern, ein Zimmer bewohnt haben, in dem wir eben den ganzen Winter über von zwei und vierzig (42) auf drei und vierzig (43) gehaust haben. Angesichts der Notwendigkeit der Fliegerangriffe alle Räumlichkeiten streng zu verdunkeln, unter strengen Strafen der wir für das Unterlassen der Verdunkelung ausgesetzt waren, war es für die Insassen nicht möglich in der Nacht die Schlafräume mit frischer Luft zu versehen. Die Nächte waren also qualvoll. Ich habe, zum Beispiel, von ein Uhr nachts an nicht mehr genug Luft gehabt, um atmen zu können. Und ich habe diese ganze Zeit von ein Uhr nachts bis zum Morgen wach verbracht und habe mich immer nur gefreut, wenn einer der Insassen gezwungen war einen gewissen Ort zu benützen und somit die Tür aufmachte und von dem Stiegenhaus etwas frische Luft hereingekommen ist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3558.812,3649.895"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was ist denn das Stiegenhaus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3649.895,3654.129"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das Stiegenhaus ist der Aufgang, die Treppe zum ersten Stock, weil mein Zimmer im ersten Stock war; das Zimmer meiner Frau war auf ebener Erde. Wir sind dann nachdem,...hm, nach...im Frühjahr neun zehn hundert und drei und vierzig (1943) wurden, wurden die Insassen von Theresienstadt gesiebt. Die Gestapo hat Unterschiede gemacht und hat prominente Persönlichkeiten ausgeschieden. Und hat diesen prominenten Persönlichkeiten eine etwas bessere Unterkunft bereitet. So dass die Menschen, die man in die Klasse der Prominenten eingereiht hat, dass die gewöhnlich zu zweit—eine Familie: Mann und Frau—ein Zimmer bekommen haben und für sich wohnen konnten und auch eine, eine, hm, bessere...eine bessere...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3654.129,3707.185"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Verpflegung?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3707.185,3708.029"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . Verpflegung bekommen haben. Aber die große...es waren...es waren gar nicht allzu Viele, es waren vielleicht hundert fünfzig (150)...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3708.029,3715.321"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Waren Sie darunter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3715.321,3716.93"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . zwei hundert Prominente. Nein, ich bin nicht dabei gewesen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3716.93,3720.118"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie waren nicht unter den Prominenten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3720.118,3721.18"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich war nicht unter den Prominenten. Unter den Prominenten war Murmelstein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3721.18,3727.664"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Murmelstein, der in Wien war?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3727.664,3729.633"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Murmelstein war unter den Prominenten. Einige von seinen Leuten aus der Kultusgemeinde, die er mit gebracht hat, wurden unter die Prominenten eingereiht durch seine Mitwirkung...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3729.633,3744.023"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wieso wurde Murmelstein überhaupt verschickt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3744.023,3746.539"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja, das weiß ich nicht. Eines schönen Tages hat ihn die Gestapo herauf geschickt mit seinen Getreuen und seinen Jüngern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3746.539,3755.32"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3755.32,3755.898"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Gründe sind mir nicht bekannt. Also diese Prominenten, es waren ja nicht allzu viele, zirka ein hundert fünfzig (150) bis zwei hundert (200). Die großen Massen, an dem Schicksal der übrigen großen Massen hat sich nicht viel geändert. Auch waren die Prominenten...auch waren die Prominenten bis zu einem gewissen Grade vor dem Schicksal des...der, der weiteren Deportierung nach polnischen Lagern bewahrt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3755.898,3783.241"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also Friedmann war nicht unter den Prominenten und...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3783.241,3786.287"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Friedmann, Friedmann...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3786.287,3787.443"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und Stricker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3787.443,3788.881"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Friedmann, ja, Friedmann und Stricker, ja, waren auch unter den Prominenten, haben aber...haben aber für sich in einem Haus gewohnt, wo sonst nur Prominente gewohnt haben. Friedmann und Stricker waren unter den Prominenten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3788.881,3803.63"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und nachher waren sie weggeschickt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3803.63,3805.692"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und wurden trotzdem weggeschickt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3805.692,3807.192"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und Sie waren unter den Prominenten nicht?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3807.192,3808.473"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich war nicht unter den Prominenten und bin allerdings auch in Transporte gekommen und zwei Mal, ich muss sagen, hm, durch ein Gefüge des Schicksals oder wirklich, hm, Gottes Hilfe...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3808.473,3819.869"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Willen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3819.869,3820.369"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . Willen aus den Transporten wieder ausgereiht worden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3820.369,3824.517"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Also wollen wir dann weiter gehen , ja nun...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3824.517,3826.376"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3826.376,3826.86"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Kommen Sie zu Ihrer persönlichen Geschichte jetzt zurück.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3826.86,3830.641"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ich habe...Ich habe im November...im November neunzehn hundert zwei und vierzig (1942), habe ich mich dem technischen Dienst zur Verfügung gestellt und habe im technischen Dienst gearbeitet. Ich habe schon erwähnt, dass wir das Wasserwerk...das Wasserwerk einrichten mussten, beziehungsweise die bestehende Wasserversorgung für den weit...für die große Bevölkerung, hm, hm, leistungsfähig ausgestalten mussten, neue Wsserleitungsstränge durch alle Strassen legen mussten, arbeiten an großen Rohrlegungsarbeiten. Wir mussten aber nicht nur das, wir mussten die Häuser so Instand setzen, dass sie vom sanitären Standpunkt aus nicht allzu viel zu wünschen lassen, das hat uns viel beschäftigt. Und dann mussten wir Vorsorge treffen, da wir viele der Dachböden in den Häusern belegen mussten, weil die Stockwerke nicht Platz genug gehabt haben, um die Leute unter zu bringen, mussten wir für die, für allfällige Feuergefahr, für die Bekämpfung der Feuergefahr vorsorgen. Es musste also eine Feuerwehr ins Leben gerufen werden,...die Gestapo hat uns eine Motorspritze und zwei (2) andere Feuerspritzen verschafft. Es wurde eine richtige Feuerwehr unter einem Feuerwehrkommandanten gebildet und wir mussten...wir mussten auch eine Feuerpolizei einrichten, die immer zu delegieren hatte, damit die Multiplikationen vom Feuer Standpunkt aus einwandfrei sind. Wir mussten eine Feuerlöschordnung schaffen und das hat uns einige Monate beschäftigt. Wir mussten dann eine Unmenge anderer technischer Arbeiten machen, die eben mit der Verwaltung eines, eines, hm, solchen Unsummen von Baulichkeiten verbunden sind. Ausserdem...und das hat natürlich den technischen Dienst sehr stark beschäftigt—hat die Gestapo mit ihren Angehörigen und dem ganzen Kommando der Gestapo größten Wert darauf gelegt, dass ihre Unterkünfte in dem glänzendesten Zustand sind. Man hat fortwährend zu Bauen gehabt, sie haben fortwährend Wünsche gehabt. Es war ihnen nichts gut genug, denn die Herren von der Gestapo haben in Theresienstadt in ihren Ubikationen, in ihren Räumlichkeiten—das war ein eigener Teil der Stadt, der abgegrenzt war für die Gestapo allein, mit großen Parkanlagen, sehr schönen, modernen und den besten Gebäuden, die Theresienstadt hatte; da mussten wunderbare Einrichtungen geschaffen werden für die Unterhaltung der Herren von der Gestapo—Kaffeehäuser, Restaurants, ein Kinosaal, ein Grossartiger, Klubräume...alles musste von uns geschaffen werden. Und das hat natürlich einen großen Teil der Bauarbeiten verursacht und der technische Dienst zu machen hatte. Und so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=3830.641,4030.211"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und bei dieser Verbindung mit der Gestapo waren die freundlich, waren die...? (unverständlich—beide sprechen).","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4030.211,4034.633"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Gestapo hatte eigentlich mit dem größten Teil der Juden nichts zu tun gehabt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4034.633,4040.179"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4040.179,4041.194"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Mit der Gestapo war man froh, wenn man sie nicht gesehen hat. Man ist...man hatte natürlich auf den Strassen ein Prompt zu machen und sie zu begrüßen....","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4041.194,4054.807"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4054.807,4055.682"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ebenso hatte man auch die tschechische Gendarmerie zu grüßen, denn...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4055.682,4059.552"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4059.552,4060.208"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . denn die waren ja die Wachmannschaft deren sich die Gestapo bedient hat. Alle Ausgänge und alle Eingänge in die Stadt waren ja von der tschechischen Gendarmerie bewacht.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4060.208,4072.648"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4072.648,4073.285"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Also die Insassen hatten die Verpflichtung jeden, hm, zu grüßen von diesen Leuten, ohne...diese Leute hatten aber ein striktes Dankverbot. Sie durften nicht danken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4073.285,4084.44"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4084.44,4085.534"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die tschechische Gendarmerie durfte nicht und die Gestapo hat natürlich nicht gedankt. Sie sind mit ihren Reitpeitschen und mit ihren großen Stiefeln durch die Stadt gegangen und es ist ihnen jeder ausgewichen, der sie nur gesehen hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4085.534,4096.737"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Oh, sie durften nicht danken, wenn man sie grüßte...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4096.737,4098.768"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Nein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4098.768,4099.768"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Sie durften nicht zurück grüßen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4099.768,4101.408"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Sie durften nicht zurück grüßen, haben auch nie zurück gegrüßt. Man war froh, wenn man nichts mit ihnen zu tun hatte. Leider ist es aber doch vorgekommen, wenn Leute unvorsichtig waren, die Chauffeure der Gestapo sind in der rücksichtslosesten Weise mit ihren Traktoren und mit ihren Auto gefahren und es sind ja ziemlich viele Fälle vorgekommen, wo Leute überfahren worden sind, weil sie nicht rechtzeitig ausweichen konnten. Man hat sogar gesagt, dass einer der Chauffeure es darauf angelegt hat, Juden zu überfahren. Na, man darf das ja nur so nebenbei...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4101.408,4142.837"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Nun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4142.837,4144.181"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Der...der technische Dienst hat, hm, hat eine...hat also großen Umfang angenommen gehabt, weil große...weil tatsächlich die Arbeiten, die von dem technischen Dienst verlangt wurden, sehr umfangreich waren. Wie das Jahr neun zehn hundert vier und vierzig (1944) erscheint man in den Kreisen der Gestapo den Auftrag bekommen zu haben, Theresienstadt in ein Musterlager zu gestalten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4144.181,4181.765"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4181.765,4182.249"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das heißt, aus Theresienstadt ein Lager zu machen, das man den Presseleuten und eventuell dem Roten Kreuz zeigen konnte. Und da ist auf einmal der Befehl ergangen, die Stadt zu verschönern. Vom Jahre vier und vierzig (44) an hat der technische Dienst eine Unsumme von Arbeiten gehabt, um diese Stadtverschönerung durchzuführen. Alles musste in Stand gesetzt werden, alles musste verputzt werden und gefärbelt werden, die Strasse mussten peinlich sauber gehalten werden. Es durfte kein Papierschnitzel weg geworfen werden. Es war auch tatsächlich ein ziemlich reinliches Örtchen. Die Kasernen mussten zum Teil geräumt werden, weil die Gestapo ein großes Zentralarchiv aus Deutschland irgendwo—eine ganze Kartothek der Parteiangehörigen nach, hm, nach Theresienstadt verlegt hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4182.249,4244.367"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Hm, nach Theres...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4244.367,4247.429"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Wir mussten also eine große Kaserne, die mussten binnen wenigen Tagen geräumt werden und die ganzen Räumlichkeiten mussten für dieses Archiv Instand gesetzt werden. Nach wenigen Wochen ist das Archiv auch tatsächlich...ist das, ist das installiert worden und das ist von Gestapo Organen, hm, ist das bedient worden. Da hatten dann die Juden nicht mehr Zutritt, nur die, die mit ihrer dienstlichen Eigenschaft dort zu tun hatten—die Betreuung, die Leute, die die Ofen beheizt haben,...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4247.429,4281.58"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4281.58,4282.486"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . Leute, die irgendwelche Arbeiten...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4282.486,4283.955"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aber keine Kanzlei Arbeiten?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4283.955,4284.721"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Keinerlei Kanzlei Arbeiten, das war für Juden dann gesperrt. Das Jahr vier und vierzig (44) stand also unter dem Zeichen „Stadtverschönerung“. Wir haben wiederholt Besuche gehabt von ausländischen Pressevertretern, es war...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4284.721,4302.927"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Zum Beispiel...es waren doch nicht viele Ausländer, die nicht im Krieg waren, Schweden, Schweiz...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4302.927,4307.645"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Ja, offenbar nur die, die in Deutschland noch...die in Deutschland noch ihre Pressevertreter hatten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4307.645,4312.673"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4312.673,4313.397"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und es ist weise untergangen keinerlei Antworten zu geben, net wahr, außer das was die Gestapo fragt. 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Alle diejenigen, die irgendwelche Arbeiten für die Gemeinschaft geleistet haben, sind in Ghetto Dollar entlohnt worden.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4409.069,4422.706"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Was haben sie gekauft?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4422.706,4426.19"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und da hat man, um das potentinische Dorf vollständig richtig darzustellen, hat man nun Geschäfte errichtet und in diesen Geschäften konnten die Insassen des Ghettos alles Mögliche kaufen, was die Geschäfte bekommen haben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4426.19,4445.554"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Zum Beispiel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4445.554,4446.882"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Vorwiegend waren es durchaus diejenigen Waren, die man aus...die man den jüdischen Transportteilnehmern, die man aus den Koffern, die man zurückbehalten hat, genommen hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4446.882,4463.832"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4463.832,4464.566"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat den Leuten, die nach Theresienstadt gekommen sind, in den seltensten Fällen ihr großes Gepäck gelassen. Man hat einfach die großen Koffer unter Verschluss behalten und jede Woche sind so und so viel Hunderte von den Koffern, Tausende von den Koffern und das, was man an Wäschestücken und an Kleidungsstücken und an sonstigen, hm, Geräten, die man in den Koffern gefunden hat, das hat man in eine Kaserne, das war die sogenannte Aussiger Kaserne in Depot gegeben. In dieser Aussiger Kaserne ist alles...all das...all das Hab und Gut der jüdischen Ghetto Insassen aufgestapelt worden. Ich selbst habe wiederholt dort zu tun gehabt, weil ich die Stellagen, in denen die Waren aufgeschlichtet wurden, weil ich die bauen musste und verstärken musste, weil sie überlastet worden sind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4464.566,4529.528"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4529.528,4530.247"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Das größte Lager.... Es hat keine Wäschefabrik Deutschlands, ich glaube nicht...keine Wäschefabrik der Welt ein, ein so großes Lager von Herrenhemden oder Frauenhemden oder dergleichen, wie ich in der Aussiger Kaserne in Theresienstadt gesehen habe. Es waren dort—ohne dass man übertreibt—Hunderttausend von Wäschestücken jeder einzelnen Art...nicht nur dass in dieser Kaserne das Gepäck...das in dieser Aussiger Kaserne das Gepäck der Insassen von Theresienstadt...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4530.247,4573.83"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4573.83,4574.72"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . geschleust worden ist, wie man sagt...also...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4574.72,4577.295"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4577.295,4577.989"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . wird und sortiert worden ist, man hat aus...aus allen anderen Städten Deutschlands hat man den Juden abgenommen das Gepäck, hin geschickt nach Theresienstadt und dort ist das paketiert und sortiert worden, um wieder in das Reich—die verschiedenen Städte geschickt zu werden für die Menschen, die ausgebombt sind und Mangel an Wäschestücken und Kleidung haben. Es war ein ungeheueres Lager an Kleidungsstücken, Wäschestücken, Schuhen, an Bedarfsartikeln jeglicher Art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4577.989,4616.853"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4616.853,4617.462"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Und mit einem Teil dieser Vorräte hat man nun die Geschäfte ausgestattet und die Juden konnten nun für ihre Ghetto Dollars die Waren kaufen, die man den Juden abgenommen hat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4617.462,4633.169"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ja.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4633.169,4633.81"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Natürlich waren vielfach sehr schöne Waren dort, sehr gute Waren, aber die Protektion hat hier eine Rolle gespielt...und für gute Verbindung hat man gute Waren bekommen. Wer keine Verbindung gehabt hat, hat keine Waren bekommen oder schlechte Ware.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4633.81,4650.167"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Und wer hat diese Geschäfte bedient?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4650.167,4651.667"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Die Geschäfte sind wieder von den Juden bedient worden. Die haben wieder...der Eine war der Geschäftsleiter...das Andere waren Angestellte im Geschäft...Juden und Jüdinnen waren dort Verkäufer und Verkäuferinnen. Und dann hat man, um das Bild einer Gemeinschaft voll zu machen, hat man auch für Gesellschaftsqualitäten Sorge getragen. Man hat also...man hat also ein Kaffeehaus geschaffen und im Kaffeehaus wur..., wurden Konzerte abgehalten. Von...über Kommando der Gestapo musste das Ghetto eine jüdische Musikkapelle aufstellen. Es haben sich genug Musiker gefunden, man hat Instrumente dazu dirigiert und es...und es wurde im Kaffeehaus konzertiert. Man hat in Parkanlagen, die aus dem Boden gestampft werden mussten im Zuge der Verschönerung, zu arbeiten...hat man einen Musik-Pavillon errichtet, wo allabendlich Konzerte waren, die übrigens gar nicht schlecht waren und wo die jüdischen Musiker tatsächlich recht gute...recht Gutes geleistet haben. Es hat auch...es sind auch alle Bestrebungen unterstützt worden, die...die in der freien Zeit den Arbeitenden und den alten Leuten...hm, Erholung bieten sollten; also man. hat für Vorträge Sorge getragen, es haben sich Ausschüsse gebildet für die Freizeit Ausgestaltung, Vortragsgemeinschaften, es wurden Sprachkurse abgehalten, es wurden wissenschaftliche Vorträge, also in allen möglichen Gebieten abgehalten—in technischen Gebieten, medizinischen Gebieten, religiösen Gebieten. Es hat auf allen Gebieten ein ziemlich reges Leben gegeben. Es wurden Theaterstücke gespielt, es haben sich die Schauspieler zusammen gefunden. Man hat auf den Dachböden Bühnen inszeniert und den Zuschauerraum inszeniert...es ist...es ist also ein ziemlich lebhaftes, geistliches Leben langsam und langsam in Schwung gekommen. Das war im Jahre vier und vierzig (44) und, hm, in dieser Zeit hätte es für den oberflächlichen Betrachter das Leben der Juden in Theresienstadt ein ganzes Leben eigentlich gewesen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4651.667,4820.825"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: In den meisten Fällen...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4820.825,4822.257"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Aber man...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4822.257,4822.825"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . haben Männer und Frauen zusammen gelebt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4822.825,4823.505"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: . . . aber man darf...die Wenigsten haben zusammen gelebt, sie waren getrennt in Männer und Frauen. Das wäre es ja nicht gewesen, das, was den Theresienstädter Aufenthalt so fürchterlich gemacht hat, war die Unruhe, weil man nicht gewusst hat wer von heute auf morgen dort bleiben wird.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4823.505,4844.023"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Wie oft hat man Leute weggeschickt?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4844.023,4846.992"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Friedrich Schlaefrig: Man hat jede Woche Transporte weggeschickt, mit Ausnahme eines kurzen Zeitraumes in der Weihnachtszeit und in der Osterzeit. Mit Ausnahme dieser zwei Zeiten sind...haben immer Transporte nach Polen stattgefunden aus den verschiedensten Gegenden Deutschlands und der...und der Tschechoslowakei.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131#t=4846.992,4864.104"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["German [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/transcript/8073/annotation/1235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/008/073/original/friedrich-schlaefrig_de.vtt?1583169916","format":"text/vtt","language":"de"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/008/073/original/friedrich-schlaefrig_de.vtt?1583169916"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/annotation_set/170","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["annotations_schlaefrig_german [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17676/file/73131/annotation_set/170/annotation/1236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e[Note: The audio for Spool 69—the final spool from the Schlaefrig interview—is currently unavailable. 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