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It starts with a few sentences introducing Mr. Paulus, but he yields the interview to Father Kharchenko. 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I [it is not clear - who speaks and which words he says]. [Pause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=71.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Munich, September the 21st, 1946. We are...we interrupt the interview with Alphonus Paulus because the Greek Orthodox Minister of the Displaced Persons Camps of Lohengrinstrasse, Munich, came in by appointment; he has services [?] in the evening and we will get a short interview with him. The interview of course will take place in Russian. His name is Father Yoan Kharglenko or Kharbenko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=91.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Khar-chen-ko.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=127.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh,—Yoan Kharchenko. I will write it down in Russian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=127.0,136.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In Russian] Yes, move over a little bit nearer. Tell me, Father Yoan, where are you from and from what region in Russia are you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=136.0,152.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e From Vilna.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=152.0,153.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So. 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Well, begin with this and tell us, what happened to you, when the Soviets entered the Baltic Provinces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=173.0,187.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: When the Soviets entered the Baltic Provinces, so at the beginning everything was all right, but later they gradually began to harass us. First people started disappearing; it turned out that they were arrested, and later already at the end of the Soviet power people in large numbers were taken away somewhere to the center, deep into Soviet-Russia: these people were mostly from the privileged classes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=187.0,214.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And tell me, how big was the Orthodox population in Latvia during the independence of Latvia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=214.0,222.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e A...During the independence of Latvia, there was in Latvia a fully free...Greek-Orthodox church not persecuted by anybody and everybody was able to worship freely regardless of whether he was Greek-Orthodox, whether he was Hebrew, Moslem. 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Did you have a bishop?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=251.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e We had archbishop Yoan Kamar [?] who was found in an unknown way burned in his villa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=254.0,262.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e When?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=262.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Already in 1934. 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Then, and tell me this...a...the old Greek-Orthodox Cathedrals—did all of them remain Greek-Orthodox after the establishment of an independent Latvia [after the first World War]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=292.0,303.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e A...I can say only about Riga.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=303.0,307.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=307.0,307.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . That there, it means, the cathedrals as such remained the same...only...well, the buildings in which the clergy lived were expropriated in behalf of the State. There was even a time when Bishop Augustine lived for a certain time in the basement of the Cathedral and had to recieve even one of the Patriarchs, who visited him, seems the one from Constantinople, in the same cellar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=307.0,333.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e But this happened while the Latvians were in power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=333.0,335.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e It was while the Latvians were in power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=335.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when the Soviets came, what happened then? 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Did you notice that anything happened to your parishioners?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=371.0,378.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . The parishioners, as far as I know continued to attend the church in a normal way, as they used to attend before. 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Where was he before the Metropolitan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=428.0,433.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e In Moscow...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=433.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was he a Metropolitan, or a Bishop? 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We were deeply convinced of this; and even now, his death—although the Germans were trying to brand it a terroristic act of the Soviet Union—we are deeply convinced that his death...that obviously he was killed by the Germans. 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But in what way...people didn’t talk about this, but very many of them were transported away somewhere to some other places. In the end result, the Jews, you see, already at the time, in 1943, there were comparatively few of them who were led to work in the mornings.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=759.0,784.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So. You did not know a family Michelson in Riga?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=784.0,788.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: I know, I was hiding one Jew until the present time [Footnote: Of course he means until the evacuation. This phenomenon of speaking in the present tense when dealing with some vivid memories repeatedly occurs in these interviews.] in Riga. He is a former...a former attorney at law; we forged for him documents of a German and consequently...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=788.0,801.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e He lived?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=801.0,801.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e He was able to live on them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=801.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What was his name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=803.0,805.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e His name was Schmidt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=805.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=807.0,807.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e It just suited for a German.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=807.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Suited for a German, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=809.0,812.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Moreover, in order to save themselves, they used to visit our convent, and so to say, completely pretended to be Greek-Orthodox Germans. And in this way they managed now [Footnote: Like the Nazis, the collaborationists rarely failed to play up the “favors to their Jewish friends”, favors which only most too often could not be corroborated.] to remain in Riga.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=812.0,826.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Aha [vague sounds].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=826.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e One moment. This concludes spool 143. We are going over to spool 144 still continuing with the interview with Father Yoan Kharchenko.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=827.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e This is spool 144, continuing the interview with the Russian minister, Yoan Kharchenko.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=854.0,866.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In Russian] Tell me Father Yoan what happened afterwards when the Germans started to retreat; or in general give me an appraisal of the situation during the interregnum in Latvia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=866.0,885.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e When the Germans started leaving Latvia, we all found ourselves in this kind of situation; to remain in Latvia meant to be surely shot by the Bolsheviks because, we having remained in Latvia at the departure of the Bolsheviks were already to be traitors to the Soviet regime. 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Between...at the time he was traveling from Vilna, Kovno..through..well [he was traveling] by automobile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=913.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Was he in religious attire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=926.0,928.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, he was in religious attire. There was with them together a famous basso and the wife of the basso, he was an artist, his name I don’t recall now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=928.0,942.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e They killed him too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=942.0,943.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and the chauffer, also, four persons. They killed four persons and a little girl who was standing approximately 200 meters from the place. This seven year old girl the bandits also killed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=943.0,956.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, this was that archbishop who was sent from Moscow and then remained in Riga?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=956.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes that was the same metropolitan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=961.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e The metropolitan. Well, continue with your story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=964.0,969.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when the Germans started leaving everyone of us had the feeling that to remain in Riga means to be for sure annihilated by the Soviet authorities because we happened already to be enemies of the Soviet power insofar as we did not leave together with the Soviet troops when they departed from Latvia [retreating from the onmarch of the Germans]. At the same time one didn’t feel like leaving Riga going somewhere into the unknown and so with the Germans whom we already had learned to know during their one and a half - two year stay in Latvia and have found out that this is...that this is a nation which is exclusively dedicated to aggression and enslavement of mankind, and were compelled kind of, to choose the lessor of two evils. But we had no chance even to do so since the Germans in a compulsory manner made everybody join the evacuation; and after having embarked us in the lagers, and in order that we may not escape from these lagers fenced around by a triple wiring, they hanged on the chest of everybody his own number and the number of the lager and photograped us. After that regardless of his specialty or social status, all were sent to public works and frequently families were broken up—transporting the children and mothers somewhere in one direction and sending the heads of families, the husbands and sons in another direction. And so, when my family was sent away I didn’t know where it was sent in the month of August and only by accident having escaped from this lager I learned that my family was in the city of Auerbach [one word not clear] working in a clothing factory as Ostovzi [apparently a term which he proceeds to explain] that means as compulsory labor, Ostovzi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=969.0,1096.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e From the East.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1096.0,1096.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1096.0,1097.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1097.0,1099.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e It was called “Ost”.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1099.0,1102.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me more detail about the life in the lager, how you were transported, how they treated you, and how you escaped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1102.0,1111.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e I personally had to travel not by steamer, but by train, so that I had to travel towards Kovno, in freight cars. From Kovno we were sent to Kretingen and in Kretingen they disembarked us. And for two weeks laying around on the railroad station literally between the rails since all the Germans had fled and all roling stock was taken. A crowd of twenty thousand people were abandoned, they did not feed us and we existed just how one could manage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1111.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it mean, ‘How one could manage’?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1156.0,1159.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e That means that we led a half hungry existence and were forced in every way on the border of Kretingen to go to work, diging trenches. But we tried by hook and crook to avoid it and so we did not go to dig the trenches. After that they left us to the mercy of the fate, but when the last detatchments, a kind of demolishing squad, were leaving who used to blow up the stations they gave us a chance to assemble open cattle cars. And by means of these...on these...open cars they loaded us, attached a small locomotive, a switching engine from Kretingen to Memel, eighteen kilometers, they transported us in twelve hours. It must be stated that the whole time during our evacuation from Riga to Berlin there was a large and very strict guard, so if somebody only attempted to escape they treated him very cruelly. He was beated and there were even cases that they [the would-be escapees] were killed. Well, and about the events after we were brought to Berlin I have already told. We were brought to Wilhelmshafen to the so-called transit lager which has three yards—the first yard, there one only spends one night; they they lead [the people] to the second yard, and [afterwards] to the third, the innermost one. And from there, there is no way out, except for being assigned as a chattel slave to one of the German military factories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How did they treat people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1258.0,1259.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e They treated them like animals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1259.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they beat?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1262.0,1263.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, they used to beat; they fed very poorly and in general there was a state of complete misrule. They forced us to work regardless of hours and they fed us exclusively on turnip—rather on water from under turnips, and they provided no more than a hundred grams of bread a day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1263.0,1282.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Who were the supervisors? Were they your own Russians, Latvians or were they Germans?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1282.0,1286.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e No, in Wilhelmshafen the supervisors were young Russians who were formerly under the Soviets. One must say, that there were even cases when our own Russian girls while selling themselves to Germans, obtaining so to speak, some temporary comforts, tried in every way to persecute and oppress their own brothers the Russians; not only the Russians but all the others too; there were there also Latvians, there were there also Lithuanians, there were there also Estonians, there were there also Poles. One must say that the Poles were treated worse of all. Well, one felt badly hurt, when in Wilhelmshafen some Russian little punk of a girl, sixteen-seventeen years old, but enjoying the favors of the head of this lager slapped the face of some aged professor. In the other lagers, however, in the labor-lagers at the factories and plants the supervisors were only Germans and there the discipline was still worse and still more rude. With greater cruelty they treated different trifling offences. It was not permitted to leave the quarters of the very lager, and even if they let one go out to the city once in a month or two, for an hour or two one had no right to ride on a streetcar or on a bus but had to walk in the middle of the street, in the middle of the street on foot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1286.0,1375.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And what kind of clothing did you wear?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1375.0,1377.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e We wore our own clothing but only wore a sign, a sign, such a blue sign [badge?] on the chest marked with the white letters Ost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1377.0,1385.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Ost. Well, how did you escape from the lager?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1385.0,1389.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e I managed to escape from the lager...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1389.0,1392.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you keep your beard?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1392.0,1393.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, yes, I...I was so to speak already in complete priestly...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1393.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . attire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1399.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . attire, and I learned in the office that I, as a clergyman, would be allowed to go from the lager in Wilhelmshafen to the cathedral for the services. There was a friend of mine engineer Korablikov, whom I asked, in case I should not return [to take care of] my little things, which I had, and to forward them to me somehow later. And I myself got a permission. I left on Saturday night for the cathedral, I asked the Metropolitan to keep me there and didn’t return any more to the lager.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1399.0,1438.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e How come? Was the Metropolitan at liberty?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1438.0,1441.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Yes, the Metropolitan was a German [Footnote: Apparently a Greek-Orthodox clergyman who had resigned his Russian citizenship after the revolution of 1917.]. Yes, yes, the Metropolitan of Germany, he was free, in the cathedral, in twon...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1441.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what happened then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1452.0,1454.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, after that I did not return to the lager. For about two weeks I slept at the stations, on Fridrichstrasse, Alexander Square and then...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1454.0,1462.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And what? Didn’t they arrest you? Didn’t they ask for documents?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1462.0,1466.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, you know at the time, so to say things were already in a mess insofar as the Germans felt already that their discipline was on decline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1466.0,1479.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Where, in what city did that happen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1479.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e In Berlin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1481.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Hm...well...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1481.0,1483.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e All the stations were crowded with soldiers, with deserters, it was comparatively free. But later however our Emigrant Committee got for me a little room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1483.0,1495.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e But the government was still German?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1495.0,1496.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e German.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1496.0,1498.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And was the city bombed?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1498.0,1499.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Every day, several times, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1499.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Well?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1502.0,1502.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Later, in about two weeks they got for me a document, they got for me also a little room and I lived in Berlin until the arrival of the Americans, rather until February until the biggest bombing. And later I found out where my family was. 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I was [for a long time] in the Nuremburg lager, and here I am now eight months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1556.0,1561.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And do you have here a church?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1561.0,1563.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e That’s it, I have a magnificent church equipped by our own efforts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1563.0,1569.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you take out some icons, do you have any?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1569.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e We had no icons, but we ourselves are drawing here [our own] and our icons will enviously compare with the ancient.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1572.0,1577.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e And do you know, that on the house where the UNNRA people have dinner I saw today a very ancient Russian icon with a silver Sacerdotal Vestment, which the Germans obviously have shipped out of Russia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1577.0,1590.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I too had the opportunity to see here at the homes of some German acquaintances when I happened to meet them, I too saw Russian icons and they used to show them to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1590.0,1604.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e They did not give them up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1604.0,1605.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e No, they did not give them up because they consider them of financial value. 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The peasants had food-stuffs and we were starving.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1626.0,1639.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e You bartered with the peasants?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1639.0,1640.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, with the peasants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1640.0,1641.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me this, you used to meet Germans and all kinds of people, what did they think about the war, and what are they thinking about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1641.0,1650.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e In my opinion the Germans were aggressors for centuries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1650.0,1656.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1656.0,1657.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Personally I am not a politician but I think German always thought of how to enslave Europe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1657.0,1668.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1668.0,1669.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . and if they right now to a certain extent are silent because they were utterly defeated, nevertheless as soon as they will have materially recuperated they will start again holding speeches claiming that they are a pure Aryan race and that all the others are [Untermenschen] — sub-men.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1669.0,1693.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. Did they use this expression Untermensch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1693.0,1697.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e They not only used it but I myself read a magazine—they—it had a very beautiful cover and printed on fine paper, a magazine called “Untermensch”, where they—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1697.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e It was called by that name?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1708.0,1709.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Yes, it really was called so officially....where they presented types of different nations, mostly as degenerates and pointed out: this is a Russian, this is a Jew, this is a Tartar, this is a Ukrainian and next to them they put some SS man and they wrote [underneath] this is a pure Aryan—a German.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1709.0,1735.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So. So you don’t think that they are sorry that all this has happened and so on...that they have thrown the world into a sea of blood and so on. Do they repent...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1735.0,1747.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e In my opinion, in my opinion if there are repenting Germans they are in small number, a small percentage. They look at us even now as an extraneous element, an element unnecessary for them. Though they are guilty in all misfortunes and in all troubles they whose government had forced us to leave our fatherland. And still they don’t give us here a chance to enjoy full rights. At present, though they don’t show it openly, in all their actions, in all their movements, in all their behavior one can see how they hate us. It is sufficient that if you take a streetcar...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1747.0,1791.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e So?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1791.0,1793.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e If I enter in my religious attire none of the Germans will ever offer me...a...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1793.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e A seat...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1800.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e . . . a seat. But if at the same time, my deacon in “regular” clothing is traveling with me, the Germans taking him for a German immediately offered a seat. However, when he without sitting down started offering me the seat in Russian, they seeing that he too was a foreigner occupied again the seat and did not give us a chance to sit down. These are the kind of trifles they show in everything; not only toward Russians or Poles, toward Jews, but even toward those Germans who now left Poland considering them as people who have already become more or less “easternized”...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1800.0,1846.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, of lower culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1846.0,1848.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eIoan Kharchenko:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and they have become [people] of lower culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1848.0,1850.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, well Father Yoan is there anything else you wanted to say? Would you like to tell something to your brothers in Chicago, the clergy of Chicago? Say...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1850.0,1860.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: I would like to say [he speaks in a raised voice, passionately after a long pause] Our brethern in Christ, save us, save us from the abuse [he sobs] to which we are subjected already for twenty-seven years. We suffer, we smart, we lost our fatherland, we [many of us] have lost their families, we lost all our property, we are now given our piece of bread like alms thrown to beggars. Regardless of that—that thousands of us belonging to the intelligensia, thousands of engineers, thousands of professors sit around without utilizing their skill, and how much benefit could they have brought to mankind? But that is not all, one ting more, which is in store for us, and that is the most terrible; we got used already to all deprivation, but to go back to our fatherland, to go back to the “Father of Nations”, to Stalin, that threatens us with inevitable death. And if you, our brethern in Christ, if you won’t help us if you won’t redeem us from here, if you won’t take us over to your lands, then you must know that many more of us will have to die there, on their native soil. Our request to you is—save us, as once upon a time Minin and Pozharsky [Footnote: Minin and Pozharsky were a merchant and military man, respectively, who called for the redemption of Russia from the yoke of the Tartars in the century. Their famous call “Let us mortgage our women and children but save the land”, has become a traditional patriotic stereotype.] have mortgaged their...had given away all their belongings, they even said, that they would mortgage their wives and children and still would save Russia, so you too, Oh, redeem the ruins of that Russia, which for twenty-seven years now is navigating without sails and without rudder on the great ocean of sorrow and blood. Amen!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1860.0,1973.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/63381/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eDavid Boder:\u003c/strong\u003e [In English] This concludes the interview with Father Yoan Kharchenko on the displaced people camp of the Baltics, Munich, Lohengrin-Strasse, September 21, 1946. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1973.0,1985.49694"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Russian transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This is Spool 9-143C. Father Ioan Kharchenko. It starts with a few sentences introducing Mr. Paulis that he yields the interview to Father Kharchenko. Chicago, October, the 7th, 1950. Boder. 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Скажите нам сперва по-литовски, где Вы были, и что с Вами случилось, когда Совет пришли в Литвению.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=71.688,84.998"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alfonsas Paulis: Я...[неразборчиво; пауза]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=84.998,91.947"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] September 21, 1946. We are...we interrupt the interview with Alfonsas Paulis...because the Greek Orthodox Minister of the Displaced Persons Camps at Lohengrinstrasse, Munich came in on appointment, he has services I suppose in the evening and we will get a short interview with him. The interview of course will take place in Russian. His name is Father Ioan Shardrenko. Shardrenko or Sharden’ko?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=91.947,127.056"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: [In Russian] Хар-ченко","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=127.056,127.996"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] Oh,...so, Ioan Kharchenko. I will write it down in Russian. [Пауза]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=127.996,136.73"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In Russian] Так, подвиньтесь немножко сюда. [Пауза] Скажите мне, отец Иоанн, откуда Вы и как Вы...и откуда Вы из России?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=136.73,152.427"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Из Вильна.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=152.427,153.94"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так, а где Вы были священником, когда произошла эта...мм...немецко-советское советский договор?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=153.94,165.038"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Немецко-советский договор когда был, я был в это время священником в Риге, в женском монастыре.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=165.038,173.455"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Вы, значит, тогда были в Прибалтийском крае, в Риге, в женском монастыре. Ну, хорошо, начнете с этого и скажите нам, что с Вами случилось, когда Советы вошли в Прибалтийский край?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=173.455,187.017"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Когда Советы пришли в Прибалтийский край, то сначала всё было хорошо. А потом постепенно начались...ммм...репрессии. Сначала стали исчезать люди, оказалось, что они арестованы, а потом в конце уже пребывания Советской власти э...стали массами людей куда-то увозить, в центр, вглубь Советской России. Преимущественно люди были привилегированных классов.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=187.017,214.762"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А скажите мне, как велика была православная группа в Латвии во время независимости Латвии?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=214.762,222.43"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Во время независимости Латвии в Латвии было полностью свободное православие, никем не преследуемое, и каждый...выполнял свой культ в независимости от того, православлен ли он, иудеен ли он, магометанин—свободно, значит, мог выполнять свои культурные надобности.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=222.43,246.42"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Да, я хотел знать, сколько православных было тогда в Латвии?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=246.42,249.904"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я затрудняюсь сказать.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=249.904,251.046"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Затрудняетесь сказать. Был у Вас архиерей?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=251.046,254.069"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: У нас был архиепископ Иоанн Поммер, которого неизвестным образом нашли сожженным у себя в вилле.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=254.069,262.131"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Когда?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=262.131,263.004"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Уже в 34-ом году. Потом после этого был митрополит Августин, который здравствует и поныне и находится здесь в Германии сейчас.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=263.004,274.3"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А где он находится?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=274.3,275.461"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: [Пауза] Я не знаю, правда, точно...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=275.461,278.177"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Он не установил, так сказать, контору такую...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=278.177,282.121"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, нет.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=282.121,282.725"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Консисторию не установил?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=282.725,283.538"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, у него...он принадлежит тоже к нашей церкви, здесь же.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=283.538,287.679"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ага, так. Так что он официально тут, так сказать, пока не фигурирует.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=287.679,291.546"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=291.546,292.012"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А. Ну, а расскажите вот что: старые православные соборы все остались православными после независимости Латвии?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=292.012,303.803"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я могу сказать только про Ригу, что там, значит, собор как таковой так и остался. Только, значит, дома, в которых жило духовенство, было отчуждено в пользу государства. Даже было время, когда владыка Августин жил одно время в подвальном помещении собора и принимал даже одного из патриархов, приехавших к нему, кажется, Константинопольского, тоже самое в подвале.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=303.803,333.669"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Но это было при латышах?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=333.669,335.024"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Это было при латышах.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=335.024,337.366"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так, ну, значит, когда Советы пришли, что, латышское правительство переменилось или что это было?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=337.366,344.063"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, наступила Советская власть.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=344.063,347.073"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Наступила Советская власть. [Неразборчиво] Значит, когда в первый раз Советы пришли?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=347.073,351.823"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=351.823,352.707"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ну, и что тогда с церквами, случилось?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=352.707,357.833"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: С церквами они еще ничего не успели сделать и, по-моему, они еще ничего не делали.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=357.833,364.747"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А сколько времени они там были?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=364.747,366.337"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Около года.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=366.337,367.78"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: И они церкви оставляли в покое.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=367.78,369.819"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Церкви были в покое.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=369.819,371.328"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Но у Вас же был приход. Что Вы замечали, случалось с Вашими прихожанами?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=371.328,378.489"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Прихожане, по-моему, нор...церковь посещали нормально, так как и посещают. Но [пауза] в конце уже пребывания Советской власти много прихожан наших поисчезло, и потом, как оказалось, они были высланы вглубь Советского Союза.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=378.489,397.553"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так, ну а теперь скажите мне, как состоялся это исход Советов из Латвии? [пауза] Под напоров немцев, очевидно.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=397.553,408.73"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, конечно.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=408.73,409.382"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Что с Вами тогда произошло? Как с Вашим...с Вами лично.. как Ваши личные обстоятельства были? Ваша личная жизнь во время этого переходного периода?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=409.382,419.672"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Видите, с нами вместе жил митрополит Сергий.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=419.672,423.127"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Какой это Сергий был?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=423.127,424.169"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Которого вот в 44-ом году в июне месяце убили.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=424.169,428.603"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ну да, какой это митрополит Сергий был? Он сперва был митрополитом где?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=428.603,433.047"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: В Москве.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=433.047,434.255"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Он был митрополитом или епископом?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=434.255,435.924"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Архиепископом.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=435.924,437.138"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Архиепископ Сергей в Москве.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=437.138,440.331"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=440.331,440.813"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: И как он попал в Латвию?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=440.813,442.623"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Его прислала Советская власть, вернее его прислал патриарх Московский.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=442.623,448.665"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так, во время этого Советского...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=448.665,451.793"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Пребывания.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=451.793,452.666"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . пребывания в Латвии...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=452.666,453.712"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=453.712,454.114"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Вот так. И что? Ваша церковь его признала?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=454.114,457.81"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, конечно. Мы...постольку, поскольку Латвийская церковь была автономной церковью, то она признала Московского патриарха и его признала как, значит, экзарха Прибалтики. Но потом, когда уходили Советы, то он прятался трое суток в подвале, в монастыре прятался, остался, когда пришли немцы, и значит, объявил автономную церковь, отделённую от Москвы.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=457.81,488.108"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. Ну, и тогда что случилось? Во время немцев как было положение Вас и Ваших прихожан?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=488.108,497.562"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Видите, в первое время в отношении...во время, когда пришли немце, то особенно не замечалось давления немецкого...[пауза]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=497.562,508.917"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: На церковь?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=508.917,509.761"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: На церковь. Но это очень немного. А потом после этого, значит, немцы, вернее, немецкие вот эти гражданские части, и латышские части начали повсюду, значит, совать свой нос.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=509.761,524.354"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=524.354,524.956"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Эээ...я постольку, поскольку служил в первое время при немцах в женском монастыре и был близок около владыки Сергия, знаю, что, значит, они его всячески преследовали.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=524.956,541.268"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Немцы и латыши?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=541.268,542.427"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Немцы и латыши. Даже были случаи, когда, значит, заставляли некоторых монашек и некоторую обслугу церкви и монастыря, значит, следить за митрополитом Сергием, считая его советским шпионом.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=542.427,560.49"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=560.49,560.77"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: На самом деле, конечно, никаким он шпионом не был, и мы в этом глубоко были убеждены. И даже сейчас смерть его, хотя немцы старались обрисовать это террористическим актом Советского Союза, но мы так у себя в душе убеждены, что смерть, значит, его убили, очевидно, немцы, значит, при помощи латышей.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=560.77,585.948"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=585.948,586.499"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Инсценировали только, значит, набег советских партизан.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=586.499,590.845"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Скажите, Вы человек, имели возможность обозревать все это. Скажите, каково было отношение латышей к Советам? Опишите латыши сперва к Советам, а потом к немцам. Начните с Советов.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=590.845,607.715"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Значит, с Советов. Латыши, по моему мнению, латыши к Советам относились, когда пришли Советы, хорошо.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=607.715,617.103"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. [Пауза] А было много...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=617.103,620.383"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Когда латыши...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=620.383,622.687"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: 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СС?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=650.107,651.994"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я право не знаю.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=651.994,652.782"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: 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Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=658.115,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Но они, значит, масса латышей было военных, и там у них мобилизации были, они числились как немцы.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=0.0,666.165"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Позвольте, прежде чем я забуду. В этом...в Риге был пастор Фетлер.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=666.165,673.008"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да. Это баптисткий?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=673.008,673.491"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Баптист. Что с ним случилось?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=673.491,676.318"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я не знаю, я...[неразборчиво]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=676.318,678.358"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Вы не имели, Вы случайно не знаете, что с ним случилось?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=678.358,681.373"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, понятия не имею.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=681.373,682.625"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Да, я только хотел [неразборчиво]...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=682.625,685.113"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=685.113,685.698"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: . . . потому что у него есть масса друзей в Америке, и они, пожалуй, хотели бы знать. Ну, а скажите как вот что: теперь...эту...когда немцы [пауза]. Дайте мне задать другой вопрос: знали Вы—или мы придем к этому—знали Вы что-нибудь о том, что немецкие...немцы делали с евреями в Латвии?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=685.698,711.499"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Э, я как раз был около.. служил в монастыре, где рядом находилось гетто немецкое...эээ еврейское.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=711.499,719.854"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=719.854,720.45"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: И у меня было очень много знакомых евреев, которые находились в гетто, преимущественно интеллигентные.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=720.45,727.192"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=727.192,727.622"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Причем мы с женой специально вставали очень рано утром, для того чтоб только повидать их, когда их вели утром на работы.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=727.622,736.415"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=736.415,736.679"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: И значит тайным образом мы им кланялись, и они нам отвечали тоже самое, уже пройдя мимо. Если только заметили бы немцы наши поклоны им, то нас бы тоже или бы посадили в гестапо, или бы посадили в гетто, считая...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=736.679,754.451"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Евреями?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=754.451,755.415"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=755.415,755.734"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ну, а чем же кончилось эта судьба этих людей?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=755.734,759.151"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Их очень много увозили, даже говорят, были слухи, что очень многих там уничтожали, но каким образом—об этом не говорили. Но очень много увозили в другие куда-то места. В конечном итоге евреев в момент уже 43го года сравнительно было мало, когда по утрам их водили на работы.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=759.151,784.649"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. Вы семью Мехельсонов не знали в Риге?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=784.649,788.397"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я знаю...я скрывал там одного еврея до настоящего времени в Риге. Это бывший бывший присяжный поверенный, мы ему подделали документы немца, и он, значит...эээ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=788.397,801.428"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Жил?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=801.428,801.917"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, так и жил в...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=801.917,803.258"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Как же фамилия была?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=803.258,805.089"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Его фамилия была Шмит, как раз подходила под немца. [пауза]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=805.089,809.082"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=809.082,812.94"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Причем, для того, чтоб спастись, и, так сказать, так они посещали наш монастырь и, так сказать, полностью выдавали себя за православных немцев. Так они сейчас в Риге и остались.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=812.94,826.957"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ага. Анна Владимировна [not quite clear whether it’s a name or other words].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=826.957,827.77"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This concludes spool 143. We are going over to spool 144 still with the interview of Father Ioan Kharchenko.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=827.77,837.71"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In Russian] Один момент...[Unclear sounds.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=837.71,854.196"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This is spool 144, spool 144 continued the interview with the Russian minister Ioan Kharchenko.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=854.196,866.948"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In Russian] Скажите, отец Иоанн, значит это [пауза]...дальше что случилось, когда немцы начали уходить? Или вообще, дайте-ка мне оценку положения во время Вашего там, так сказать, междуцарствия власти.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=866.948,885.613"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Когда немцы стали уходить из Латвии, то у нас у всех получилось такое положение, что оставаться в Латвии—это значит быть, наверняка быть расстрелянным большевиками. Потому что мы, оставшись при...от...при уходе большевиков из Латвии, являлись уже изменниками для Советской власти.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=885.613,908.032"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Один момент. Скажите-ка мне, что случилось с архиереем? Там Вы мне говорили, что...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=908.032,913.647"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: В мае месяце убили митрополита Серафима между...в то время, когда он направлялся из Вильна в Ковно через, значит...эээ...автомобилем.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=913.647,926.138"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Он, что, был в духовной одежде?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=926.138,928.355"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, он был в духовной одежде, с ним вместе был один знаменитый бард...эээ...и жена барда, этого артист был, фамилию его я сейчас не помню.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=928.355,942.308"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Его тоже убили?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=942.308,943.373"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, и шофер. Четыре человека. Убили четверых человек. И девочка стояла примерно метров 200 от того места происшествия. Эту девочку семилетнюю тоже самое бандиты убили.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=943.373,956.461"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. Это был тот архиепископ, который был прислан из Москвы, а потом остался в Риге?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=956.461,961.629"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да, это тот архи...это тот митрополит.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=961.629,964.446"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Митрополит. Ну, хорошо, продолжайте, значит, свою историю.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=964.446,969.22"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Значит, когда немцы стали уходить, то у нас у каждого было такое впечатление, что остаться в Риге—это значит быть наверняка уничтоженным Советской властью, так как мы являлись уже противниками Советской власти, постольку, поскольку при уходе Советских войск не ушли вместе с ними. В одно и то же время не хотелось покидать Ригу, так как ехать куда-то в неизвестность, тем более к немцам, которых мы уже за полтора-два года пребывания их в Латвии изучили и узнали, что это исклю...это это нация, которая исключительно только занимается агрессией и порабощением человечества. И [пауза] должны были выбрать что-то...из двух зол лучшую. Но и этого нам не пришлось делать, так как...эээ...немцы в обязательном порядке заставили всех эвакуироваться, причем, посадив нас на пароходы, отправили в Германию. А в Германии заперли нас вот в лагерях, и для того, чтобы мы не могли сбежать из этих лагерей, обнесенных тройной проволокой, каждого...каждому из нас по приезде на грудь номера и номер лагеря, и фотографировали. После этого, не взирая на специальность и общественное положение, посылали всех на общие работы, и зачастую разъединяли семьи, увозя детей и матерей куда-то в одну сторону, а глав семьи—мужей—отправ..., и сыновей - отправляя в другую сторону. Причем, когда мою семью увезли, я не знал, куда её увезли в августе месяце, и только случайно, сбежав из этого лагеря, узнал, что моя семья находится в городе Авербахе, в [неразборчиво], работает на швейной фабрике как «остовцы». «Остовцы» - это значит, эээ...принудительные рабочие с востока.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=969.22,1096.215"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ост?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1096.215,1096.901"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да, да. «Ост» назывались.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1096.901,1102.566"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Расскажите-ка мне более подробно о жизни в лагере: как Вас транспортировали? Как с Вами обращались? И как вы убежали из лагеря?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1102.566,1111.979"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Мне лично пришлось транспортироваться не на пароходе, а поездом. Так что мне пришлось ехать на Ковно, значит, в товарных вагонах, в Ковно нас отправили до Кретингена, а в Кретингене нас высадили, и мы две недели валялись на железной дороге, на станции, форменным образом между рельс, так как все немцы бежали, и все составы поездов были заняты. Мы же остались...эта двадцати тысячная толпа осталась беспризорной, нас не кормили, и значит, мы просуществовали так, как кто как чем может.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1111.979,1156.822"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Вот как это...что это было «как чем может»?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1156.822,1159.821"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Это было, значит, что мы вели полуголодное существование. Причем, нас всячески заставляли на границе в Кретингене идти на работы копать окопы. Но мы всеми правдами и неправдами старались этого избежать и все-таки, значит, на рытьё окопов не пошли. [Пауза]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.821,1180.225"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1180.225,1180.587"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: После этого нас бросили на произвол судьбы. Но когда уходили последние части, уже подрывные какие-то, которые взрывали станции, то дали возможность нам собрать скотские открытые платформы, и значит, этими...на этих...на эти открытые платформы погрузили нас, прицепили маленький паровозик местного сообщения, и из Кретингена до Мемеля—18 км - нас везли 12 часов. Причем все время нашей эвакуации от Риги до Берлина была большая и очень строгая стража. Так что, если только кто хотел бежать, то, значит, с ним поступали очень жестоко, избивали его, а были случаи даже и убийств. Ну, а уже о том, когда нас привезли в Берлин, я сказал. Нас привезли в Вильхельмсхаген, так называемый пересыльный лагерь, это в котором имеется три двора. Первый двор пере...эээ...там только переночуешь ночь, а потом ведут во второй двор, и третий внутренний. И оттуда уже выхода нет, кроме как куда-то, как закабаленного раба на одну из немецких военных фабрик.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1180.587,1258.254"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А как обращались с людьми?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1258.254,1259.856"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Обращались по-скотски.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1259.856,1262.925"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Били?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1262.925,1263.651"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, били. Очень плохо кормили, и вообще был полный произвол. Работать заставляли невзирая на часы, а кормили исключительно только брюквой, вернее, водой от брюквы, и давали хлеба не более ста грамм в сутки.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1263.651,1282.117"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А кто были надзиратели? Были Ваши русские? Латыши? Или немцы?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1282.117,1286.133"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, вот в Вильхельмсхагене были надзирателями русская молодежь из подсоветских. Нужно сказать, что даже были случаи, когда наши же русские барышни, продаваясь немцам, получая, так сказать, некоторое благосостояние временное, всячески старались прижимать и угнетать своих же братьев русских. Не только русских, но и всех остальных. Там были и латыши, там были и литовцы, там были и эстонцы, там были поляки. Нужно сказать, что к полякам еще хуже относились. Ну, и было очень обидно, когда в Вильхельмсхагене какая-то русская девчонка 16 -17 лет, но пользующаяся у шефа этого лагеря благорасположением, била по физиономии какого-нибудь старого профессора. В остальных лагерях, уже в рабочих лагерях, на фабриках и заводах, надзирателями были сами немцы. И там еще хуже, еще грубее была дисциплина. Жестче относились к разным провинностям невинным, уходить было...эээ...из общежития самого лагеря нельзя, а если и отпускали, может быть в месяц, два месяца раз на час, на два в город, то никто не имел права ехать на трамвае или омнибусе, а должен был идти по середине улицы посреди улицы пешком.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1286.133,1375.397"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А какую одежду Вы носили?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1375.397,1377.165"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Носили одежду свою, но только носили знак...знак...голубой такой знак на груди с белыми буквами «Ост».","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1377.165,1385.884"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: «Ост». Ну, хорошо. А как же Вы удрали из лагеря?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1385.884,1389.348"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Мне из лагеря удалось удрать...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1389.348,1392.054"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Вы бороду сохранили или...?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1392.054,1393.964"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да, я был...я был тогда уже полностью в духовном...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1393.964,1399.18"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Облачении?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1399.18,1399.716"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: . . . облачении. И я в канцелярии узнал о том, что...эээ...мне как духовному лицу можно будет из Вил...из лагеря в Вильхельмсхагене поехать в кафедральный собор помолиться Богу. У меня был мой друг, инженер Корабликов, которого я попросил, если я не вернусь обратно...эээ...мои вещички, которые у меня были, потом мне каким-нибудь образом переслать, а сам получил пропуск, ушел вечером в субботу в собор кафедральный, пере...попросил митрополита меня оставить и больше в лагерь не вернулся.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1399.716,1438.911"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А как? Митрополит там был на свободе?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1438.911,1441.46"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, митрополит был...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1441.46,1442.394"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: немцем.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1442.394,1443.297"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, да, митрополит германский. Он был на свободе, в кафедральном соборе в городе.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1443.297,1452.073"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ага. Ну, и что же тогда случилось?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1452.073,1454.558"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Ну, после этого я в лагерь не вернулся. Недели две я ночевал на станциях, на Фридрихштрассе, Александерплатц, а потом...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1454.558,1462.961"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А что же? Вас не арестовали? Документов не просили?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1462.961,1466.181"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, тогда была, знаете...как сказать? Ну...более...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1466.181,1473.142"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Легкой?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1473.142,1473.794"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, безалаберщина была, постольку, поскольку немцы уже чувствовали, что у них дисциплина уже падает.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1473.794,1479.921"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Где, в каком городе это было?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1479.921,1481.286"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: В Берлине.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1481.286,1481.988"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ага.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1481.988,1483.251"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Станции все были загружены солдатами, дезертирами, сравнительно свободно было. Но потом мне все-таки наш эмигрантский комитет достал комнатку и...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1483.251,1495.124"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Власть еще все немецкая была?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1495.124,1496.757"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Немецкая власть.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1496.757,1498.333"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: И бомбардировали город?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1498.333,1499.477"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Каждый день по нескольку раз. Ну, потом недели через две мне достали документ. Мне...потом достали мне комнатку, и я, значит, до прихода американцев, вернее, до начала февраля, до самой большой бомбардировки, жил в Берлине, а потом узнал, где моя семья и 9 февраля выехал к своей семье в Авербах, где и встретили меня американцы.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1499.477,1527.602"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А...А когда Вас в Авербахе встретили американцы?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1527.602,1531.161"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: 6 апреля 1945 года.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1531.161,1533.915"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Хорошо. Что Вы тогда сделали?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1533.915,1536.921"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Там...Американцы мне дали возможность сейчас же организовать там православную церковь, предоставив в мое распоряжение маленькую католическую кирху.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1536.921,1546.981"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1546.981,1547.597"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: И я там служил до тех пор, пока не пожелал поехать в лагерь...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1547.597,1551.448"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1551.448,1551.87"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: ..где нахожусь и до настоящего времени.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1551.87,1553.643"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А, значит, Вы уже более года здесь в лагере?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1553.643,1556.494"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, я не...я был в Нюрнбергском лагере, а, значит, здесь я восемь месяцев.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1556.494,1561.361"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: И что же? Вы тут церковь имеете?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1561.361,1563.4"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: То же самое: имею великолепную церковь, оборудованную оборудованную нашими собственными силами.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1563.4,1569.47"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Какие-нибудь иконы вывезли? Имеете их?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1569.47,1572.04"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Икон мы никаких..., но мы сами здесь рисуем. И наши иконы позавидуют старинным.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1572.04,1577.157"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А Вы знаете, что в доме, где это УННРА обедают, я сегодня видел очень старинную русскую икону с серебряной ризой, которую, очевидно, немцы вывезли из России?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1577.157,1590.237"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, я встречал здесь тоже у некоторых знакомых немцев, когда приходилось с ними встречаться,...эээ...тоже встречал русские иконы, и они мне их показывали.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1590.237,1604.427"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Но их не давали?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1604.427,1605.45"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, они мне их не давали, ибо они считают это ценностью материальной. И мне в большинстве случаев немцы говорили, что это их родственники, будучи в России, значит, присылали оттуда подарки.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1605.45,1620.434"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Это краденое добро?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1620.434,1621.715"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Совершенно правильно.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1621.715,1623.46"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: А Вы что, тут знаете немцев кое-каких?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1623.46,1626.296"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Нет, я вот так бывает случайно, приходится встретиться, иной раз обменять что-нибудь. Приходил обменять вещи на продукты. У бауеров имеются продукты, а мы очень голодали...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1626.296,1639.002"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: У крестьян это?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1639.002,1640.041"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, у крестьян.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1640.041,1641.564"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Скажите мне вот что: Вы много с немцами встречались, и с другими встречались. Что они про войну думали и думают?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1641.564,1650.048"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: По-моему, немцы...эээ...столетиями являлись агрессорами.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1650.048,1656.399"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1656.399,1657.969"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я лично не политик, но я считаю так, что немцы [пауза] всегда думали о том, как бы поработить Европу.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1657.969,1668.296"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1668.296,1669.077"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: И если они сейчас только...эээ...до некоторый степени молчат, потому что их разбили в пух и прах, то все равно, обосновываясь опять материально, они опять будут...будут заводить речи о том, что они чистая арийская раса, а остальные все являются «унтерменшами».","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1669.077,1693.313"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. Они что, употребляли это выражение «унтерменш»?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1693.313,1697.192"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Не только употребляли, но я сам читал журнал—у них очень хорошая обложка, красивая и...эээ...на хорошей на хорошей бумаге был отпечатан—журнал «Унтерменш», где они...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1697.192,1708.667"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так назывался журнал?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1708.667,1709.44"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, так и назывался официально....Где они, значит, показывали типы разных народов, преимущественно дегенератов и указывали: это русский, это еврей, это...эээ...татарин, это украинец, а рядом ставили какого-нибудь эсесовца и писали: «А это чистый ариец—немец».","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1709.44,1735.308"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. Так что Вы не думаете, что они раскаиваются, что что-нибудь произошло и так далее? Что они мир там бросили в море крови и так далее...раскаялись, что...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1735.308,1747.268"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: По-моему, по-моему, если только и раскаиваются немцы, то очень малое количество, малый процент. Они и сейчас на нас смотрят как на...эээ...чуждый для них элемент, не нужный им элемент, хотя во всех несчастьях и во всех бедах виноваты они...они, и то правительство, которое заставило нас покинуть Родину. И все-таки они здесь не дают возможности нам тоже быть полноправными сейчас, хотя они это сейчас открыть не выявляют, но во всех их действиях, во всех их движениях, во всем поведении видно, как они нас ненавидят. Достаточно того, что если сядешь в трамвай, если заходит...я в духовной одежде, мне никогда никто из немцев не предложит...эээ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1747.268,1800.208"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Места.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1800.208,1800.505"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: . . . места. В одно и то же время мой дьякон в штатской форме едет со мной. Немцы, принимая его за немца, сейчас же предложили ему...эээ...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1800.505,1810.686"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Место.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1810.686,1811.059"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: . . . место.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1811.059,0.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=0.0,1811.692"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: И когда он не садясь, стал мне предлагать по-русски, то они увидали, что это тоже ауслендер и заняли опять свое же место и не стали нам давать возможности сесть. Вот такие мелоча у них проявляются во всем. Не только к русским или к полякам, к евреям, но даже и к тем немцам, которые сейчас выехали с...Польши, считая, что это люди, которые уже более или менее, так сказать, овосточились.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1811.692,1846.883"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Так. И низшей культуры?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1846.883,1848.562"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Да, и низшей культуры стали.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1848.562,1850.875"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: Ну, хорошо, отец Иоанн. Эээ...Есть еще кое-что, что бы Вы хотели сказать? Хотели бы что-нибудь сказать Вашим Чикагским братьям, Чикагскому духовенству? Скажите..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1850.875,1860.96"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ioan Kharchenko: Я бы хотел сказать, чтобы...[пауза] Наши братья во Христе, спасите нас, спасите от того произвола [пауза], в котором мы находимся уже 27 лет. Мы страдаем, мы мучаемся, мы потеряли Родину, мы потеряли зачастую семьи, мы потеряли все имущество. Мы сейчас получаем ни...как нищий милостыню кусок хлеба [пауза], не смотря на то, что тысячи нас, интеллигенции, тысячи инженеров, тысячи профессоров [пауза] сидят сейчас, не применяя своего труда. А сколько б они могли принести пользы человечеству. Но этого мало. [Пауза] Еще одно, что нас ждет, и ждет самое ужасное: мы привыкли уже ко всем лишениям, но возврат обратно, на Родину, возврат к отцу народов Сталину для нас грозит неминуемой смертью. И если, братья во Христе, вы нам не поможете, если Вы нас не вырвите отсюда, если Вы нас не...не возьмете к себе, то должны будете знать, что многие еще сотни тысяч должны будут лечь костьми там, у себя же на родной земле. Просьба наша к вам: спасите нас, как когда-то Минин и Пожарский сменяли своих...эээ...отдавали все свое добро, даже сказали, что отменяют жен и детей, но все-таки спасут Русь. Так и вы спасите ос...осколки той Руси, которые 27 лет сейчас без ветрил и без руля плавает по великому океану горя и крови. Аминь.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1860.96,1973.978"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In English] This concludes the interview with the Father Ioan Kharchenko at the Displaced People camp of the Baltic in Munich, Lohengrinstrasse, September the 21st, 1946.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1973.978,1988.404"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Boder: [In Russian] Спасибо.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1988.404,1985.489"}]},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/transcript/8004","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Russian 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It grew from a small paramilitary unit to a powerful force that served as Hitler's \"Praetorian Guard,\" the Nazi Party's \"Shield Squadron\" and a force that, fielding almost a million men (both on the front lines and as political police), managed to exert as much political influence as the German Army. Built upon the Nazi racial ideology, the SS, under Heinrich Himmler's command, was responsible for many (and most of the worst) of the crimes against humanity perpetrated by the Nazis during World War II.\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=650.0,651.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=666.0,673.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eghetto: \u003c/b\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=711.0,719.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eghetto: \u003c/b\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=720.0,727.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003eGestapo: \u003c/b\u003e\u003c/p\u003eContraction of Geheime Staatspolizei: \"Secret State Police.\" The German internal security police (secret police) under the Nazis, headed by SS chief Heinrich Himmler. 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href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=788.0,801.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=812.0,826.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Vilnius\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Vilnius\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=913.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kaunas\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kaunas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=913.0,926.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Moscow\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Moscow\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=956.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=956.0,961.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=969.0,1096.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=969.0,1096.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003elager: \u003c/b\u003eGerman military term for camp or encampment. 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href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kaunas\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kaunas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1111.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kaunas\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Kaunas\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1111.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1111.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1111.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Krentinga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Klaipeda\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Klaipeda\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Riga\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Berlin\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Berlin\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Berlin\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/location/Berlin\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003eFor more information and related content, see \u003ca href=\"https://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Wilhelmshaven\"\u003ehttps://voices.library.iit.edu/camp/Wilhelmshaven\u003c/a\u003e\u003c/p\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091#t=1159.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://iit.aviaryplatform.com/collections/231/collection_resources/17636/file/73091/annotation_set/1266/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cp\u003e\u003cb\u003elager: \u003c/b\u003eGerman military term for camp or encampment. 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